BBC Sports Personality Of The Year

[Brend'Watkins]

I love SPOTY and always have done. Never miss it. But it really is a big pile of back slapping wank.

Does that mean you can comment on this thread or you can't ?

Of course he can comment, he just can't act like people disagreeing with him need to lighten up.

I like talking about it now because for the last 10 years it's actually been worthy of a discussion and we've genuinely had options, that means that we're doing something right when it comes to sport and I'm hugely patriotic about sport (except for when dickheads tell me I should be supporting Chelsea/Man Utd/etc in the champions league).

Do we really need 2 hours though of cliched ridden, celebrity attending, Strictly Come Dancing Promoting, montage after montage of seeing the same montage over and over at license fee payers expense of Mo Farrah 1st, A Murray 2nd, Lara Trott 3rd and hocky team of the year coming to our living rooms from Salford presented by the excellent Claire Balding but secretly wishing it was Helen Skelton?

[paul_e]

I love SPOTY and always have done. Never miss it. But it really is a big pile of back slapping wank.

Does that mean you can comment on this thread or you can't ?

Of course he can comment, he just can't act like people disagreeing with him need to lighten up.

I like talking about it now because for the last 10 years it's actually been worthy of a discussion and we've genuinely had options, that means that we're doing something right when it comes to sport and I'm hugely patriotic about sport (except for when dickheads tell me I should be supporting Chelsea/Man Utd/etc in the champions league).

Do we really need 2 hours though of cliched ridden, celebrity attending, Strictly Come Dancing Promoting, montage after montage of seeing the same montage over and over at license fee payers expense of Mo Farrah 1st, A Murray 2nd, Lara Trott 3rd and hocky team of the year coming to our living rooms from Salford presented by the excellent Claire Balding but secretly wishing it was Helen Skelton?

Do we need 2 1/2 hours of eastenders every week?  Do we need a 24/7 sports news channel fronted by a twat in a yellow tie?

It's entertainment TV, some people like it ,some don't it's really that simple.  If this discussion was on the olympics thread I'd understand you posting that it's shit but going into a thread purely to say that you don't think the subject being discussed should exist is just odd.

Oh, and please don't use the term 'licence payers expense' it really is a wanky thing to say when you've really only contributed a fraction of a penny to the production of the show (which is still a massive oversimplification of how the licence fee works and how you get value for it).

[Risso]

2 and 1/2 hours of Eastenders a decade is 2 and 1/2 too many.

Anyway, cheer up everybody, the Australian equivalent's winner last year was the captain of the rugby team who lost the world cup final.  Not sure they'll have a much better list to choose from this year.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Yeah, Bren'd, it's odd that you should join in a discussion and offer an alternative view.

[ACVilla]

Yeah, Bren'd, it's odd that you should join in a discussion and offer an alternative view.

"Do we really need it?" is a bit of a naff alternative view.

Well, no, we don't really need it. Millions of people enjoy it though.

[paul_e]

Yeah, Bren'd, it's odd that you should join in a discussion and offer an alternative view.

Actually his contribution is fine and I wouldn't have argued with him over it, I don't agree with him coming on the thread to just say "it's shit" but I think he expanded on that and added something that was worth discussing, you on the other hand just seem to be here to troll.

[FrankyH]

Don't know why but the tail end of this thread reminded me of this...

[Brend'Watkins]

I love SPOTY and always have done. Never miss it. But it really is a big pile of back slapping wank.

Does that mean you can comment on this thread or you can't ?

Of course he can comment, he just can't act like people disagreeing with him need to lighten up.

I like talking about it now because for the last 10 years it's actually been worthy of a discussion and we've genuinely had options, that means that we're doing something right when it comes to sport and I'm hugely patriotic about sport (except for when dickheads tell me I should be supporting Chelsea/Man Utd/etc in the champions league).

Do we really need 2 hours though of cliched ridden, celebrity attending, Strictly Come Dancing Promoting, montage after montage of seeing the same montage over and over at license fee payers expense of Mo Farrah 1st, A Murray 2nd, Lara Trott 3rd and hocky team of the year coming to our living rooms from Salford presented by the excellent Claire Balding but secretly wishing it was Helen Skelton?

Do we need 2 1/2 hours of eastenders every week?  Do we need a 24/7 sports news channel fronted by a twat in a yellow tie?

It's entertainment TV, some people like it ,some don't it's really that simple.  If this discussion was on the olympics thread I'd understand you posting that it's shit but going into a thread purely to say that you don't think the subject being discussed should exist is just odd.

Oh, and please don't use the term 'licence payers expense' it really is a wanky thing to say when you've really only contributed a fraction of a penny to the production of the show (which is still a massive oversimplification of how the licence fee works and how you get value for it).

I've already told the BBC what I think of Eastenders, and Strictly.  I've also told them that SPOTY is just used partly as a vehicle to peddle the 'mertis' of the latter.  That aside I'm anti awards for anything expect for heroic recognition.  Olympian medalists are awarded for their achievements and that should be it as far as I'm concerned.  If they get spin off work as a result fine, chat shows, game shows or celebrity whatever no problem but to then have weeks of build up to this event on radio, TV or an media shoved down our throats as something that is really important makes me fucking puke and yes, I do resent the minute pittance of contribution I give toward the show. But I'm probably in the minority thinking that Mo Farrah as brilliant as he is.. reeling out his family with each of his kids wearing one of his medals and every one thinking this is nice while I and a few others will be thinking this is bollocks. 

[four fornicholl]

Every single Olympic gold medallist is as good as the one stood next to them, Best in the world in their chosen event.
The BBC will let the public decide who is most deserving.

[Pat McMahon]

2 and 1/2 hours of Eastenders a decade is 2 and 1/2 too many.

You've got my vote, together with reality tv shite. Now get your arse down to New Broadcasting House and start swinging the axe.

[Chico Hamilton III]

The BBC will let the public decide who is most deserving.

Don't the BBC provide a shortlist for the public to choose from?

[LeeS]

2 and 1/2 hours of Eastenders a decade is 2 and 1/2 too many.

I despise Eastenders so much that if I accidentally turn it on I have a mini panic and have to scramble for the remote to turn it off as quickly as possible. Just hearing the music causes palpitations.

[dave shelley]

At the risk of repeating myself and being boring, you can add Coronation Street to that as well.  Apologies.

[Chico Hamilton III]

At the risk of repeating myself and being boring, you can add Coronation Street to that as well.  Apologies.

Haven't seen it for yonks. Is Eddie Yeats still lodging with the Ogdens?

[Risso]

At the risk of repeating myself and being boring, you can add Coronation Street to that as well.  Apologies.

Haven't seen it for yonks. Is Eddie Yeats still lodging with the Ogdens?

In the great terraced house with ducks on the wall, in the sky, yes.