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Offline IFWaters

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1650 on: November 04, 2016, 07:12:32 PM »
I think the Holte and Trinity Road are both about 13,000 each. If the other 2 stands could match that and a bit of infilling with boxes at the corners then I think a capacity of 56,000 should be achievable and it feels about the right level to plan for.

I would want the stands to be 4 seperate stands though as every other modern ground has filled in the corners with wraparound seating and thats just not us.

Before all the 'it cant be done' mob kick off, this is all about planning...getting things ready, getting all the approvals in place, then if the team is successful, the plans can be put in place, starting with the North Stand being demolished for the ugly brutalist goalpost it is.

Offline Old Kodjia

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1651 on: November 05, 2016, 06:32:00 AM »
Personally, I think a redeveloped North Stand could get us up to 50,000.  We don't need anywhere near that at present but it would be nice to aim for gates of between 40 and 50,000.  As other clubs have demonstrated, it is possible to increase gate sizes.

Speaking as a fan and not a businessman, I see so much scope at the North Stand end of the ground.  I think a stand could interlink the Trinity and the DE with the possibility of a hotel at the Trinity corner.  Part of the existing car park could be turned into a multi storey to accommodate the hotel guests.  There could be room within the complex for a couple of bar areas.  I'm not sure how profitable these would be, given they would be limited to matchdays only.  I personally think it;s convenient to drink at the ground, rather than at a pub but not if it means standing on a concourse, straining your neck to watch Sky Sports on a monitor.  Another "Holte Suite" at that end of the ground would be good.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1652 on: November 05, 2016, 08:56:05 AM »
I think the Holte and Trinity Road are both about 13,000 each. If the other 2 stands could match that and a bit of infilling with boxes at the corners then I think a capacity of 56,000 should be achievable and it feels about the right level to plan for.

I would want the stands to be 4 seperate stands though as every other modern ground has filled in the corners with wraparound seating and thats just not us.

Before all the 'it cant be done' mob kick off, this is all about planning...getting things ready, getting all the approvals in place, then if the team is successful, the plans can be put in place, starting with the North Stand being demolished for the ugly brutalist goalpost it is.

Less of the brutalist insults. I grew up in a world where the only good buildings (i.e. Warm and functional) were brutalist in design, including at the time the North Stand itself.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1653 on: November 05, 2016, 09:13:28 AM »
I think the Holte and Trinity Road are both about 13,000 each. If the other 2 stands could match that and a bit of infilling with boxes at the corners then I think a capacity of 56,000 should be achievable and it feels about the right level to plan for.

I would want the stands to be 4 seperate stands though as every other modern ground has filled in the corners with wraparound seating and thats just not us.

Before all the 'it cant be done' mob kick off, this is all about planning...getting things ready, getting all the approvals in place, then if the team is successful, the plans can be put in place, starting with the North Stand being demolished for the ugly brutalist goalpost it is.

Less of the brutalist insults. I grew up in a world where the only good buildings (i.e. Warm and functional) were brutalist in design, including at the time the North Stand itself.
Did you grow up in communist Russia?
The North Stand is an ugly mess. The lower is fine and dates back many years before they rebuilt the NS. The same could be achieved again but without the corrupt board from the 70's. Rebuild the top half to hold about 10/12,000 more seats. With the existing 3,000 lower seats we could be up to 50,000 with scope for more. Include the ticket offices and club shop and knock down Villa Village to free up that land for the club to do something with. Maybe a hotel or conference centre? There's scope for a serious development if they can buy all the land back to and including the Aston Hotel. Also I would do something with the lower Doug where it meets the Holte. The way it blocks that corner of the Holte was some seriously bad engineering. With a bit of effort the corner of the Doug could sweep down to meet the lower Holtecreating a much more esthetically pleasing design and maybe a thousand extra sears. Better still start again by knocking the DE stand down and build it properly. 
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 09:21:26 AM by The Edge »

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1654 on: November 05, 2016, 09:17:03 AM »
The upper and lower North are shit.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1655 on: November 05, 2016, 09:24:25 AM »
Lower Witton Lane was built like that because The Holte was still terracing at the time.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1656 on: November 05, 2016, 09:25:36 AM »
The upper and lower North are shit.
The lower North is just a bank of existing terracing that was restyled with a sharper rake to allow a better view for seating. The facilities behind it including the narrow gangway are all part of the upper North Stand development 

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1657 on: November 05, 2016, 09:28:02 AM »
Which doesn't stop it being shit to sit in unless you're 5ft.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1658 on: November 05, 2016, 09:28:51 AM »
Lower Witton Lane was built like that because The Holte was still terracing at the time.
True but when they built the Holte the angle of the seating should of matched that of the Doug by gradually sweeping the lower Holte. It would look ten times better.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1659 on: November 05, 2016, 09:30:56 AM »
Which doesn't stop it being shit to sit in unless you're 5ft.
It was just a thought. Flatten it then and start again.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1660 on: November 05, 2016, 09:36:53 AM »
It's what i'd do if there is to be a redevelopment. Even the Upper North is tight for me (6'2) leg room wise last time I was up there. Basically the North is no go for me unless I have an aisle seat or find two seats empty as not enough room between seats for me to sit down.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1661 on: November 05, 2016, 09:49:25 AM »
Which doesn't stop it being shit to sit in unless you're 5ft.
Yes, less legroom than an Easyjet A-320 aircraft. Awful.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1662 on: November 05, 2016, 10:45:09 AM »
Lower Witton Lane was built like that because The Holte was still terracing at the time.
Quote fail. Lol
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 10:47:52 AM by The Edge »

Offline DeKuip

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1663 on: November 05, 2016, 11:27:39 AM »
Knock down the North Stand and replace it with a bank of open terracing with a steepish bank of grass/weeds/gravel at the back for a speedy and fun exit at full-time.
It would be a big improvement.

Offline cannock villa

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #1664 on: November 05, 2016, 11:38:25 AM »
Keep four traditional separate stands, just replace the North Stand with a mirror image of the Holte End. That would look impressive and raise the capacity to a sensible level which would be around the magical 48000.

 


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