Welcome Roberto Di Matteo and Steve Clarke

[Richard E]

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

See, this is why we needed to hear testimony from the "expert in Portuguese swearing" who was lined up to give evidence.

[Stirchley Villain]

"filho/filha do/da puta" is a general expletive in the Portuguese language, a bit like FFS or son of a bitch is in ours. I don't think she was wrong to take offence though.

A 'general' expletive? Calling one's mother a whore? Really?

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

Yes really. You can stub your toe alone and say filho da puta. It doesn't necessarily have to be directed at a person..

[edgysatsuma89]

"filho/filha do/da puta" is a general expletive in the Portuguese language, a bit like FFS or son of a bitch is in ours. I don't think she was wrong to take offence though.

A 'general' expletive? Calling one's mother a whore? Really?

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

Is there a reason why 'c***' sits on the top of the podium of swear words in the UK? What makes it worse than so many others? I'm of the Snatch generation so it was desensitized for us lot (albeit pronounced 'Kant').

I will get Googling later if no wise old elves (big up Ben & Holly) know.

[Chris Jameson]

And remember there's a topic in the Off Topic section where we're encouraged to ogle women.

At the risk of being labelled a drippy lefty, right on Guardian reader, that's a thread that lets the site down. No, I don't bother 'reading' it.

[Clark W Griswold]

My experience is that women really hate the word so considering approx 50% of the population take a lot of offence from it, it's been elevated up to the worst swear word. Not too many people give a fuck about fuck these days. That's my guess anyway.

[Chris Jameson]

I like the word fuck, think I'd explode if I couldn't ever use it.

[dave shelley]

Am I correct in saying that the phrase used by Mourinho was aimed solely at Ms Caneiero and not at the physio accompanying her?  If so, then surely that in itself is descriminatory.

The racism at football grounds in the seventies and eighties had to be seen and heard to be believed.  More than once, my enjoyment of football matches was ruined by the embarrassment I felt towards my fellow supporters.  When I questioned one bloke about it regarding our black players his reply was, "It's ok, he's one of ours".  I will never understand logic like that.

[Toronto Villa]

One of the reasons I love coming on here is views expressed those defending bigoted views, or views suggesting what happeed to the Chelsea physio are in any way acceptable are getting smashed to pieces. It should be considered ludicrous that there can be any defence of Mourinho or Chelsea but here we are. I'm delighted she got the settlement she was asking and especially as a father of two girls who may one day encounter this kind of primitive behaviour. The quicker we find ways to eradicate it or make it unacceptable the better.

[mike]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

We don't do punitive damages in England and Wales.

I said a while back that I'm usually wrong, but I can only reiterate, I thought Lambert was a cock from the start so occasionally I slip up and get things right.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Changing the subject back to the thread title:-)

Paddy Riley no longer listed in the O/S Who's Who? anyone heard anything?

[Richard E]

Changing the subject back to the thread title:-)

Paddy Riley no longer listed in the O/S Who's Who? anyone heard anything?

We'll have none of that sort of behaviour on here.

Mods - sort this guy out!!

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Spoilsport;-)

[Rudy Can't Fail]

"filho/filha do/da puta" is a general expletive in the Portuguese language, a bit like FFS or son of a bitch is in ours. I don't think she was wrong to take offence though.

A 'general' expletive? Calling one's mother a whore? Really?

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

Yes really. You can stub your toe alone and say filho da puta. It doesn't necessarily have to be directed at a person..

True but when it is you can hardly complain if you get punched in the face. It really depends how it's said. Even said jokingly amongst friends you're on wobbly ground. It's far more offensive than 'son of a bitch', as BE said, it's more 'son of a prostitute/whore'. As the Portuguese love their mothers so much, it's pretty much the most offensive thing you can say to somebody.

[Clark W Griswold]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

We don't do punitive damages in England and Wales.

I said a while back that I'm usually wrong, but I can only reiterate, I thought Lambert was a cock from the start so occasionally I slip up and get things right.

What's Lambert got to do with any of this? Has he called someone a ****** too?

[Stirchley Villain]

"filho/filha do/da puta" is a general expletive in the Portuguese language, a bit like FFS or son of a bitch is in ours. I don't think she was wrong to take offence though.

A 'general' expletive? Calling one's mother a whore? Really?

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

Yes really. You can stub your toe alone and say filho da puta. It doesn't necessarily have to be directed at a person..

True but when it is you can hardly complain if you get punched in the face. It really depends how it's said. Even said jokingly amongst friends you're on wobbly ground. It's far more offensive than 'son of a bitch', as BE said, it's more 'son of a prostitute/whore'. As the Portuguese love their mothers so much, it's pretty much the most offensive thing you can say to somebody.

Who would punch you in the face if you were alone..?