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Online kippaxvilla2

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #285 on: January 15, 2019, 09:05:19 PM »
Is he related to Alfie Conn?

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #286 on: March 18, 2019, 11:14:42 AM »
Prosecution closing...

...and defence.

There'll also be a closing speech on behalf of the Wednesday club secretary. The judge will then sum up the case to the jury, after which they'll be sent out to start their deliberations.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #287 on: March 18, 2019, 01:38:07 PM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #288 on: March 18, 2019, 01:39:10 PM »
Some things never change, eh?

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #289 on: March 18, 2019, 08:24:07 PM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

Hasn't that been debunked in multiple legal-led inquiries?

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #290 on: March 18, 2019, 09:13:50 PM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

Hasn't that been debunked in multiple legal-led inquiries?

It was in the Taylor Report!

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #291 on: March 19, 2019, 11:25:51 AM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

Hasn't that been debunked in multiple legal-led inquiries?

It was in the Taylor Report!

At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, why is he being charged with the gross negligent manslaughter of 95 people and not 96?

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #292 on: March 19, 2019, 11:32:18 AM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

Hasn't that been debunked in multiple legal-led inquiries?

It was in the Taylor Report!

At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, why is he being charged with the gross negligent manslaughter of 95 people and not 96?

The 96th victim died more than a year later.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #293 on: March 19, 2019, 11:32:48 AM »
Duckinfield's counsel are blaming late-arriving, drunk, ticketless fans.

Hasn't that been debunked in multiple legal-led inquiries?

It was in the Taylor Report!

At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, why is he being charged with the gross negligent manslaughter of 95 people and not 96?

Duckenfield can't be charged over Tony Bland's death because too much time elapsed between the actual incident and Bland's death.

I think

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #294 on: March 19, 2019, 11:35:18 AM »
Tony Bland spent 4 years in a coma. In law at the time, too much time (over a year and a day) had elapsed between.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #295 on: March 19, 2019, 11:36:05 AM »
People have to die within a year and a day following the incident. Hence 95

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #296 on: March 19, 2019, 11:55:27 AM »
Thank you, I didn't know that.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #297 on: March 19, 2019, 01:51:18 PM »
The rule made sense when there needed to be an obvious link between the act / omission and the death. It became an anachronism when life support machines could maintain life indefinitely, but without breaking that link.

It was abolished in the 1990s, some time after Hillsborough. I remember hearing of a case years before where a life support machine was to be turned off (there was no possibility of recovery) on the anniversary of the assault in order for the death to be 'eligible'. That would have been a horrible thing for a family to have to consider.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #298 on: April 01, 2019, 02:38:51 PM »
Jury about to deliver verdict.

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Re: Hillsborough
« Reply #299 on: April 01, 2019, 07:35:25 PM »
Jury about to deliver verdict.

Nope. They've been given a majority direction. The judge will have asked them to continue to try to deliver verdicts on which they're all agreed, but if that's not possible he'll accept verdicts on which at least 10 of them agree.

 


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