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Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5310 on: May 23, 2016, 01:35:11 PM »
Seems like we are down to two. I've already listed Di Matteo's CV, I'll list Pearson's too, for comparison.

DI MATTEO

MK Dons: only had one season there. Lost on penalties in the playoff semi-finals. Considering they'd only been promoted the previous season that's not a bad return. Verdict: SUCCESS.

West Brom: got them promoted at the first attempt. They were above the relegation zone the following season when he was, rather harshly, sacked. Verdict: SUCCESS

Chelsea: of course any achievement at that club has to be viewed while considering that just about anyone could do well there with their resources and squad. Nevertheless, he won the trophy that eluded Mourinho, Ranieri, Hiddink, Ancelotti and others, and added another trophy. He didn't do well in the league by their standards in his first season, but he had improved in the second season when he was dismissed. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Schalke: took over with them in eleventh, finished sixth. Did have a poor end to the season so I won't call it an outright success. Verdict: OKAY.

PEARSON

Carlisle: took over with them having just been relegated to the bottom tier and only avoided relegation to the Conference via an injury time goalkeeper goal. I'm not sure what the financial situation was like there though so I won't judge him too harshly. Verdict: OKAY.

Southampton: punted after just three months in charge. Verdict: FAILURE.

Leicester (first spell): promoted as Champions of League One and got them to the Championship playoffs. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Hull: took over with them just relegated to the Championship and led them to an unimpressive 11th. They were in playoffs the season after when he left so I'll be generous and say, Verdict: OKAY.

Leicester (second spell): two mid-table finishes then a playoff semi-finals defeat in his first three years. Promoted as Champions the year after. Sacked after finishing fourteenth the year after. I'll ignore what Leicester have achieved in his absence and be generous again. Verdict: SUCCESS.




So, Di Matteo has been successful just about everywhere. Pearson has only had any success at one club. Di Matteo took one year to escape the Championship, Pearson took four. Di Matteo doesn't seem be a raging psychopathic bullying wanker, Pearson does.

No comparison for me.


I must admit, that in the absence of MOyes, I was leaning toward Pearson.  Having read that, I think I will change my mind.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5311 on: May 23, 2016, 01:36:01 PM »
We need a manager that can match the enthusiasm and energy of the Villa faithful. Moyes is obviously not that man.

Bring back Tim Sherwood if it's about enthusiasm

His enthusiasm dried up in August when he realised he'd been found out.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5312 on: May 23, 2016, 01:36:16 PM »
No Nigel Pearson. We are supposed to conduct ourselves with a little more class.

And in any case I don't want someone who took the next season's Champions to 14th.

A magnificent achievement. The door is open for Nige and his platoon of ostriches then!!  Gabbys just burst into tears.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5313 on: May 23, 2016, 01:36:58 PM »
Apparently Benni McCarthy is now shortening with the bookies.

Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5314 on: May 23, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
It's going to be Colin Wanker isn't it????

Offline Ads

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5315 on: May 23, 2016, 01:41:15 PM »
He kept Southampton in the league didn't he? That's not a failure.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5316 on: May 23, 2016, 01:42:06 PM »
The impression I get from Pearson is that he's the kind of bloke who fans would warm to him once he's at your club. I know a lot of people didn't like that spat he had with Pat Murphy and for some, it put him in a bad light, but their was a little bit of arrogance and 'don't mess with me' thrown in, which could be what we need.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5317 on: May 23, 2016, 01:42:59 PM »
Hull: took over with them just relegated to the Championship and led them to an unimpressive 11th. They were in playoffs the season after when he left so I'll be generous and say, Verdict: OKAY.

He left Hull in October/November a couple of points off 5th with a game in hand.

Offline Monty

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5318 on: May 23, 2016, 01:44:10 PM »
The impression I get from Pearson is that he's the kind of bloke who fans would warm to him once he's at your club. I know a lot of people didn't like that spat he had with Pat Murphy and for some, it put him in a bad light, but their was a little bit of arrogance and 'don't mess with me' thrown in, which could be what we need.

The best comparison I've heard in his favour was one Rudy (I think?) made with Simeone. Obviously playing against Simeone you hate the cheating conniving violent bastard and all his players, but if he was your manager you'd think he was the second coming.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5319 on: May 23, 2016, 01:44:47 PM »
Yeah that's what I meant. They were in the playoff places. Sorry if I didn't explain it clearly.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5320 on: May 23, 2016, 01:45:33 PM »
Bollocks to him, I hope he gets relegated in his first season back in football. See if he fancies managing in Division 2 then.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5321 on: May 23, 2016, 01:49:11 PM »
The impression I get from Pearson is that he's the kind of bloke who fans would warm to him once he's at your club. I know a lot of people didn't like that spat he had with Pat Murphy and for some, it put him in a bad light, but their was a little bit of arrogance and 'don't mess with me' thrown in, which could be what we need.

The best comparison I've heard in his favour was one Rudy (I think?) made with Simeone. Obviously playing against Simeone you hate the cheating conniving violent bastard and all his players, but if he was your manager you'd think he was the second coming.

The way I look at it is when Pearson was at another club I thought he was an absolute prick.  If he was at my club it would be an embarrassment and make me question whether I should bother going anymore.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5322 on: May 23, 2016, 01:49:31 PM »
Moyes is the best mix of a pragmatic organiser that can get us out of the Championship (think Bruce / Warnock types) and has also flirted with the Champions League.  I think we'd struggle to find another candidate with a similar CV, let alone convince them to interview for the job.

Di Matteo has been actually promoted from the Championship and won the Champions League. His CV pisses all over Moyes'

Offline Monty

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5323 on: May 23, 2016, 01:50:04 PM »
The impression I get from Pearson is that he's the kind of bloke who fans would warm to him once he's at your club. I know a lot of people didn't like that spat he had with Pat Murphy and for some, it put him in a bad light, but their was a little bit of arrogance and 'don't mess with me' thrown in, which could be what we need.

The best comparison I've heard in his favour was one Rudy (I think?) made with Simeone. Obviously playing against Simeone you hate the cheating conniving violent bastard and all his players, but if he was your manager you'd think he was the second coming.

The way I look at it is when Pearson was at another club I thought he was an absolute prick.  If he was at my club it would be an embarrassment and make me question whether I should bother going anymore.

That's my instinct as well, but I can see the other point of view.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5324 on: May 23, 2016, 01:52:44 PM »
I've heard it's Gary Neville.

No, I've just made that up.

 


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