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Online ozzjim

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3180 on: April 15, 2016, 06:53:14 AM »
The mandate is to get us promoted back to the Premier League and quick, for that reason the more I think about it the more I think he's the best man for the job.
His Leicester were unstoppable in their promotion season, they walked it.

Let's hope he does it a bit quicker then than the four years it took him with Leicester. Three of which were when they were the richest club in the league.

Any idea of his net spend, Dave?

Probably not much. Any idea how much Leicester were spending on wages compared to everyone else on their umpteen loanees from the top end of the Premier League?

Well Sven had a good go at that and failed miserably before him....

I've actually just made the point on VT so will repeat here...Pearson should be getting a bit more praise for having an eye for a player surely?

Vardy, Mahrez, Wes Morgan,Knockeart Huth, Drinkwater all signed under his watch at Leicester for not a huge amount. The bloke can spot a player and mould them into his system and team which is where we've failed miserably for last 5 years.

Not sure how many Pearson can take credit for. A lot of things I have read suggest Walsh was the driver behind a lot of the signings which having been a scout at Chelsea makes some sense. He may will be the hidden gem for Leicester.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3181 on: April 15, 2016, 07:06:03 AM »
Interestingly it seems Pearson's agent is Walsh's brother so there must be a decently string link. Arsenal have been trying to get him but he is close to signing a new deal with Leicester. If they struggle to emulate this season he might be gettable down the line. Villa need to find and put in place their own scouting team and trusted system though.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3182 on: April 15, 2016, 07:21:31 AM »
Very surprised the club are taking another chance with a manager when we are in the state we are in. Maybe I'm missing something,  but I wouldn't regard Pearson as being any more remarkable than our last three or four managers.  We need a unifying appointment,  this guy won't be that. If it works, I'll be delighted.  But something does not sit well with me about this guy. What has he done to deserve to manage our great club? I can't see what it is.....

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3183 on: April 15, 2016, 07:39:28 AM »
The mandate is to get us promoted back to the Premier League and quick, for that reason the more I think about it the more I think he's the best man for the job.
His Leicester were unstoppable in their promotion season, they walked it.

Let's hope he does it a bit quicker then than the four years it took him with Leicester. Three of which were when they were the richest club in the league.

It was 2 and a half-seasons. The first of which (2011-12) he joined roughly half way through the season. The second season (2012-13) Leicester lost in the play-offs and missed a last-minute penalty which would have took them through to the final. And the third season (2013-14) they won the Championship. Not quite 3 out of 4 barren years.

And you're not counting 2009/10 because...?

And adding "roughly" still doesn't make November anything like halfway through the season.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3184 on: April 15, 2016, 07:47:15 AM »
  I would be happy to just regain some stability back into the club. If it takes 2-3 seasons to come back up but we're better for it , then so be it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3185 on: April 15, 2016, 07:55:19 AM »
Problem is VA that some of us may not be around in 2 or 3 seasons.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3186 on: April 15, 2016, 08:20:23 AM »
We have to get a balanced wages structure in place. We cannot go down the lines of buying promotion as, invariably, a fair few will not be good enough for the PL and we will be saddled with more expensive non-playing assets.

This is why I am unsure about our next manager. We need someone that can build a team, not just buy one. Exit left Mr Bruce.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3187 on: April 15, 2016, 08:57:33 AM »
I have 3 big concerns re. Pearson:

1) His bizarre and aggressive personality, as seen last season on several occasions, will the players take to him?
2) Shakespeare and Walsh, his 2 long-time assistants, are still at Leicester
3) If he was that good, why hasn't any other team in the mire over the last 9 months decided to employ him?
Absolutely spot on  I wish people would focus on this rather than the fact he may rant and punch a few players. I don't buy the rubbish about championship experience either. This man has nothing to offer us. Get Moyes now

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3188 on: April 15, 2016, 09:07:35 AM »
Paul Lamberts CV prior to getting the villa job read just as good, if not better than Pearsons. Moyes is a far better more sustainable choice.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3189 on: April 15, 2016, 09:09:17 AM »
Problem is VA that some of us may not be around in 2 or 3 seasons.

Do you have to Brian?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3190 on: April 15, 2016, 09:18:42 AM »
Yes I do ROBBO. Great believer in expecting the worst and hoping for the best.  To give balance to my natural miseryarse tendencies I have put a codocil on my last will and testament that my estate will pay for a beer for every Holte Ender on the 100th anniversary of my birthday.  Damon will have to organise it and pay if I go on a bad losing run on the horses.
 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3191 on: April 15, 2016, 10:04:59 AM »
I have 3 big concerns re. Pearson:

1) His bizarre and aggressive personality, as seen last season on several occasions, will the players take to him?
2) Shakespeare and Walsh, his 2 long-time assistants, are still at Leicester
3) If he was that good, why hasn't any other team in the mire over the last 9 months decided to employ him?
Absolutely spot on  I wish people would focus on this rather than the fact he may rant and punch a few players. I don't buy the rubbish about championship experience either. This man has nothing to offer us. Get Moyes now
I feel exactly the same about Moyes - does not inspire me at all

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3192 on: April 15, 2016, 10:17:20 AM »
I'm surprised you've warmed so much to Pearson, RCF. Don't you think he's a bit of a backwards, beef-and-potatoes manager in the style of a MON?

I've spent far too much time really reading up on potential managers, their signings, budget, results, listening to what fans had to say about them - fuck, as I said, far too much time but the conclusion I drew was that Pearson, as mad as he can be, is a bloody winner. All those hoping he's punch our wasters are in for a disappointment, he does the opposite, he gets players working bloody hard for him. He's not like Moyes or even Hughton, that can be, let's say, defensive. Pearson's teams have a go at the opposition every week, so expect a few 3-2 victories along the way rather than a 1-0 win.

He's got a fantastic chance to put the bullshit of his outbursts and strangling 'joke' behind him. He'll soon know that that shit doesn't happen at Aston Villa and he'll have Bevington on him to make sure he it doesn't. He wants to be respected and I'm sure he sees the Villa as just the place to earn it. I honestly think the fans will love him next season and he'll love the love. He's a bit needy in that department.

Overall, I think the football will be exciting, we'll start making Villa Park a place we love to go to and teams fear to play. Most importantly, and it will take everything we've got but I do see him as the obvious choice to get us promoted. After that, we can think again but right now he seems the only real choice if we're serious about getting back.

Meat and potatoes? Seasoned well with a few herbs thrown in to bring out the flavour, it's a great dish. Boiled to shit a la Moyes etc, it's just food to keep you alive.

I like the sound of that.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3193 on: April 15, 2016, 10:21:23 AM »
All I hope is that the board acts decisively on the overwhelming problem of the anger of the supporters.  Foolishly to the point of negligence an attitude has become established that the fans are fickle and easily manipulated.  I think a strategy of product marketing has been used in the mistaken belief that free flags, scarves, balloons, text messages, e mails, junk mail, deafening match day music and bellowed instructions to get behind the boys in claret and blue are an alternative to the simple fan pleasure of watching entertaining football.
Because I am bored by the predictable rubbish served up by the club and the players at Villa Park I want to see a new manager who is not boring.  For all his well documented faults I could accept Pearson if only because Villa Park would be a livelier, more vibrant, less boring place.
I dread the combined boardroom doing a nanny knows best job on the suffering fans and coming up with a Southgate type safe pair of hands.
I long to go back to the days when we walked to the ground thrilled by the prospect of watching a Villa game, even a losing one if we had something to cheer about.
Completely summed up my feelings there Brian.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3194 on: April 15, 2016, 10:22:59 AM »
I have seen comments regarding Shakespeare and Walsh as the reason for Pearsons relative success, but surely it is the manager that counts.
Ferguson and Mourinho have both had numerous different assistant managers, and coaches and it never affected their success rate.
In an ideal world I agree the manager should have his first choice coaching team with him, but it's not a deal breaker.

I am warming to the idea of Pearson.

 


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