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Offline lordmcgrath5

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3090 on: April 14, 2016, 11:28:26 AM »

Warburton - would he leave Rangers? They are massive but it is Scotland, not sure

I honestly cannot imagine Warburton leaving Rangers now that he's got them up to the Premier League. Think he'll want at least one crack at winning the league and/or getting into Europe. He won't get these sort of opportunities just yet down south.

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3091 on: April 14, 2016, 11:29:08 AM »

Warburton - would he leave Rangers? They are massive but it is Scotland, not sure

I honestly cannot imagine Warburton leaving Rangers now that he's got them up to the Premier League. Think he'll want at least one crack at winning the league and/or getting into Europe. He won't get these sort of opportunities just yet down south.

Yes, I think you're right. Which is a pity as I think he'd be quite an interesting candidate.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3092 on: April 14, 2016, 11:32:22 AM »
Our reputation is shite at the moment. I care about results and would back nearly anybody who can deliver them.

I have been swayed by some of the things I've read from Leicester fans and I think if he ended up at Newcastle then I'd be concerned they'd finish above us. Automatic promotion has to be the only expectation and beyond Moyes, I think he'd deliver it.

Not for the first time, I agree entirely with Ads.

I initially wanted Moyes and only Moyes, but I've gradually come round to thinking that Pearson might actually be better for us.

This is how I feel on the subject.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3093 on: April 14, 2016, 11:32:49 AM »
I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite?

Steve Bruce went to his mid-table Hull team the season after Pearson left, and in his first season got them promoted.

So he was hardly proving it at Hull when he did a vastly inferior job there to Steve Bruce.

Also - 'a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted'. Actually, he's done this less than Hughton, Bruce, McCarthy, Warnock or Grayson.

And if we're just looking at a couple of good seasons with one club and ignoring the rest of it, what Holloway achieved with Blackpool is far more impressive than anything Pearson did with Leicester.

Wouldn't particularly want him either.

Offline ClaretAndBlueBlood

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3094 on: April 14, 2016, 11:32:58 AM »
....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

It's not just Pat Murphy though, is it?  Pearson offends lots of people.  He's also not the only manager out there who has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs, although he may be the only one who does it less often than he gets himself fired for being a liability.  I really don't understand this clamour for a bully; Keane, Karsa and Culverhouse proved demonstrably that it doesn't work with these players - the latter pair of idiots even got fired for their behaviour.  How is Pearson legally going to be more extreme than they were, then?  Would it even work?  I'd have thought the very last thing we need in our basket case of a dressing room is a volatile loon throwing his weight around. 

I think we need someone with a calm head (which Pearson doesn't appear to possess) who copes well under pressure (which Pearson apparently can't) and will be here to see through a long term plan (which Pearson has never done).  It's not just an either/or between a Southgate and a Pearson, there is a lot of middle ground there.  As others have said, a bit of charisma would be welcome.  That's charisma, not aggression.  Pearson seems to bring almost guaranteed disgrace and embarrassment sooner or later; haven't we had enough of that this season?     

they didn't get fired for bullying

Didn't they?  I thought there were allegations of bullying, Karsa was suspended and both were subsequently fired after an internal investigation.  Apologies if I'm wrong.  Still doesn't mean a bully is what we need.

they were fired for not doing their jobs, which Lambert was unaware of. He only kept his job because he agreed to them being fired

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3095 on: April 14, 2016, 11:34:52 AM »
One thing that drew my attention last night was how the news of Pearson wanting Powell as his Assistant Manager was reported. It appeared online in the Guardian, Telegraph and Daily Mail at exactly 10.30pm which makes me think it was an orchestrated release, by who I have no idea. The club?

It's worth considering it was reported by our respective journalists at each title too; John Percy, Stuart James and Laurie Whitwell.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 11:39:57 AM by Rudy Can't Fail »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3096 on: April 14, 2016, 11:36:14 AM »
Somebody had clearly been briefed on the story.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3097 on: April 14, 2016, 11:39:58 AM »
One thing about that Pat Murphy interview with Pearson. Murphy goaded and goaded, and Pearson tried not to rise against it despite his obvious anger. Murphy could have left it there, point made, but once he realised he was on safe ground, he continued the goading. If he'd tried that against Ferguson at Old Trafford he'd be out on his ear.   

My issue was more that he completely lacked the whit or wisdom to change the crux of the conversation, he just sulked.
The whole thing could have been avoided if he hadn't acted a tit, and once caught out he could have simply apologised or changed the topic.

Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3098 on: April 14, 2016, 11:43:31 AM »
I would like Warburton but as others have said he will stay and have a go at Celtic and Europe before he leaves. Likewise Eddie How has tried life away from Bournemouth at Burnley and it didn't work out. He has a great relationship and reputation growing there so he wouldn't leave. The three clubs who get promoted will keep their managers, why would they stay in the Championship?
the fact more than one outlet is reporting it tells me it is as good as done. Yes I am wary of Pearson's rep but at the same time we need a strict man to sort the club out and give the players a kick up the arse. Powell has managed at that level so could be a decent assistant. I have some faith in the view of Leicester/Albion fans that Pearson did good jobs there and is popular. As Brian posted it would just be nice to go to VP and see a team go out to fight and try to win. I watched Athletico run through brick walls last night to beat Barca, they worked harder and wanted it more. We need a Villa squad to embrace that ethic.   

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3099 on: April 14, 2016, 12:01:37 PM »
I watched Athletico run through brick walls last night to beat Barca, they worked harder and wanted it more. We need a Villa squad to embrace that ethic.   

Atletico are managed by that "unhinged" lunatic, Diego Simone.*




*No, Monty, I'm not comparing Simone and Pearson. ;)

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3100 on: April 14, 2016, 12:07:39 PM »
I watched Athletico run through brick walls last night to beat Barca, they worked harder and wanted it more. We need a Villa squad to embrace that ethic.   

Atletico are managed by that "unhinged" lunatic, Diego Simone.*

*No, Monty, I'm not comparing Simone and Pearson. ;)

As has been already said though, you can get away with being a bit of a twat if you're extremely successful - Ferguson, Mourinho, Simeone.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3101 on: April 14, 2016, 12:09:49 PM »
Pearsons managerial record


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Managerial_statistics

Overall 43.21% win rate over 405 games

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3102 on: April 14, 2016, 12:11:38 PM »
One thing about that Pat Murphy interview with Pearson. Murphy goaded and goaded, and Pearson tried not to rise against it despite his obvious anger. Murphy could have left it there, point made, but once he realised he was on safe ground, he continued the goading. If he'd tried that against Ferguson at Old Trafford he'd be out on his ear.   

My issue was more that he completely lacked the whit or wisdom to change the crux of the conversation, he just sulked.
The whole thing could have been avoided if he hadn't acted a tit, and once caught out he could have simply apologised or changed the topic.

I think we all do things in the heat of the moment and think back later I maybe could have handled that differently

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3103 on: April 14, 2016, 12:13:07 PM »
I think i've gone off Moyes now. I'd like Warburton

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3104 on: April 14, 2016, 12:13:44 PM »

 


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