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Online ozzjim

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5865 on: August 16, 2016, 09:29:43 AM »
I hope if Westwood does end up going to Burnley we replace him as well as getting Jedinak, even if only getting someone in on loan.  Gardner and tshibola are injury prone and would leave us pretty short if Westwood goes.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5866 on: August 16, 2016, 10:00:17 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

Generally agree, but to add a note of caution.  My guess is the this level of spending will put us beyond the FFP criteria, therefore if we do net get promoted next summer* then we could face sanctions the following year.  As a lot of the signed players will have limited sell-on value we might face having to sell the Ayew/Grealish/"crown jewels" to balance the books.

That said, I don't think there was a realistic alternative option.

*I cannot remember the club but a recently promoted team overspent based on their championship earnings but the extra TV money in the PL meant they escaped sanction.

Bournemouth received a £7m fine, and presumably laughed as they peeled £50 notes from their £100m+ Premier League windfall.

Middlesbrough will be dealt with similarly harshly this year.

Surely if we are successful over the season, our income will be far greater than the income Bournemouth and Boro achieved?  A 33k gate for the first match against Rotherham IMO would be the lower end of attendances if we are winning and pushing for promotion.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5867 on: August 16, 2016, 10:04:14 AM »
Burnley just signed Defour (remember when we were linked with him for a bit?) for a club record fee, which would seem to make it unlikely that they would go on and then spend another chunk of money on Westwood.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5868 on: August 16, 2016, 10:31:41 AM »
I don't think that Pointy will leave (especially after Burnley signed Defour). Maybe Gardner will be sent out on loan again or possibly released ?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5869 on: August 16, 2016, 10:43:58 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

Generally agree, but to add a note of caution.  My guess is the this level of spending will put us beyond the FFP criteria, therefore if we do net get promoted next summer* then we could face sanctions the following year.  As a lot of the signed players will have limited sell-on value we might face having to sell the Ayew/Grealish/"crown jewels" to balance the books.

That said, I don't think there was a realistic alternative option.

*I cannot remember the club but a recently promoted team overspent based on their championship earnings but the extra TV money in the PL meant they escaped sanction.

Bournemouth received a £7m fine, and presumably laughed as they peeled £50 notes from their £100m+ Premier League windfall.

Middlesbrough will be dealt with similarly harshly this year.

Surely if we are successful over the season, our income will be far greater than the income Bournemouth and Boro achieved?  A 33k gate for the first match against Rotherham IMO would be the lower end of attendances if we are winning and pushing for promotion.

But if it is based on our spending this financial year, surely much of our Premier League income will count.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5870 on: August 16, 2016, 11:10:00 AM »
I don't think that Pointy will leave (especially after Burnley signed Defour). Maybe Gardner will be sent out on loan again or possibly released ?
Agreed UKR.
Westwood is a tidy but somewhat ineffectual player...but in a better side/against weaker opposition he inevitably contributes more. He broke up play a few times on Saturday and passed the ball forward on at least two occasions. We need more than that from a top Championship player, but he's pretty sound back up.
I'd let Gardner go. Except when he was playing for the U21s I've seen nothing from him to make me think he will make it at this level or above. 

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5871 on: August 16, 2016, 11:28:07 AM »
I think Westwood's contribution will be adequate at this level, in fact he may prove a majority of us wrong and be a bit better than that. He may have more time for creativity and chip in with a few more goals than in the top flight. Either way, it might be worth taking a punt on another young central mid like Tish.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5872 on: August 16, 2016, 12:10:06 PM »
I went out with a lovely girl called Tish (Itisha). Tall (5'11) and black like our Tish, the only problem was her insistence on wearing heels and her tender years (17, but she lied and told me she was 18). I was 34 at the time. It all combined to make me feel self-conscious* like Heff or Bernie Ecclestone with some dolly bird.

Which I still do with the current one to be fair.

*I don't feel that self-conscious, obvs.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2016, 01:55:11 PM by Percy McCarthy »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5873 on: August 16, 2016, 12:24:29 PM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 
Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

To be honest, if we do get those players in, I think we would have a side that would be more than capable of doing decently in the Premier League. 

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5874 on: August 16, 2016, 12:38:41 PM »
I know its only the Star - but they seem to suggest personal terms agreed and everything in place and that Diawara will be confirmed today    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/538205/Amadou-Diawara-Aston-Villa-transfer-news-gossip   That would be a statement to all concerned!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5875 on: August 16, 2016, 12:56:32 PM »
€17 million on a virtually unknown is a lot for this league or evn the premiership at the moment

I hope he is worth it

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5876 on: August 16, 2016, 01:36:04 PM »
I'd like to hear more about Percy's leggy young bird if possible?

* For research purposes - I'm writing a book you see

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5877 on: August 16, 2016, 01:43:22 PM »
I know its only the Star - but they seem to suggest personal terms agreed and everything in place and that Diawara will be confirmed today    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/538205/Amadou-Diawara-Aston-Villa-transfer-news-gossip   That would be a statement to all concerned!

It would, but they're quoting a report in Tuttosport who are pretty shoddy. It would be a bit like a rubbish Italian paper quoting a report in The Metro as their source.

Which doesn't mean that it won't happen, but The Star don't have anything new to add to the story.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2016, 01:45:33 PM by Dave »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5878 on: August 16, 2016, 01:54:05 PM »
I'd like to hear more about Percy's leggy young bird if possible?

* For research purposes - I'm writing a book you see

Steady on.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5879 on: August 16, 2016, 01:57:06 PM »
I'd like to hear more about Percy's leggy young bird if possible?

* For research purposes - I'm writing a book you see

Historical or Self -help ?

 


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