Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions

[mr underhill]

this meltdown talk originates from a post on VT from 'Richard' who, I think, was merely responding to a host of silly puns relating in some form to the word egg - he then posted a picture of two melting eggs with the strapline prepare for a meltdown , or words to that effect.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

It's really simple - you (as an individual) don't get to decide whether someone else (another individual) might be offended by a word or situation or whatever - neither do you get to decide how offended they might feel.

You might feel differently but that has no bearing on the validity of their opinion.

If you know the use of a word or the context of how it is used will offend someone, then if you use it, you are being deliberately provocative, or offensive or just plain being a dick - the fact that you don't find it offensive is immaterial and to think otherwise reveals your ignorance (in my view).

If unsure - google the definition of 'opinion' and also 'fact' and compare the two - people can claim facts and if wrong can be corrected (politely) but opinions are personal and cannot be corrected - your opinion is equally valid, just not superior. UTV.

Well no, I don't agree with this as a general proposition because it means all discourse would have to be conducted in terms acceptable to the most (over?) sensitive person in the audience. That being said I wouldn't personally have used the term that has caused offence in the context in which it was used.

Fair point - generally for a forum like this to operate 'sensibly' then a consensus or norm is found. This distraction has been a rare instance of that norm not being easily achieved.

That said, it is still valid that it is nonsense to challenge the opinion of another just because it does not match your own - disagree yes, but refute, no. It is a pet hate, but it drives me bonkers that people confuse or intentionally conflict opinions and facts - most usually politicians. Cheers.

[b23]

It's really simple - you (as an individual) don't get to decide whether someone else (another individual) might be offended by a word or situation or whatever - neither do you get to decide how offended they might feel.

You might feel differently but that has no bearing on the validity of their opinion.

If you know the use of a word or the context of how it is used will offend someone, then if you use it, you are being deliberately provocative, or offensive or just plain being a dick - the fact that you don't find it offensive is immaterial and to think otherwise reveals your ignorance (in my view).

If unsure - google the definition of 'opinion' and also 'fact' and compare the two - people can claim facts and if wrong can be corrected (politely) but opinions are personal and cannot be corrected - your opinion is equally valid, just not superior. UTV.

Like the Brexit vote ?

[four fornicholl]

Is it Benteke?

[PeterWithe]

Sorry, yes let's move on.

Yes, of course.

[Des Little]

Don't take offence to this (actually you can if you like) but this isn't the thread for a debate on morality. It's a thread for discussing which players we should/can sign to get us back into the Prem pronto.

[PeterWithe]

Don't take offence to this (actually you can if you like) bit this isn't the thread for a debate on morality. It's a thread for which players we should/can sign to get us back into the Prem pronto.

If we sign Marlon King, free from disease or not, I reserve the right to be offended. Mortally.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

b23 - Brexit was a very good (or rather, terrible) example of people intentionally presenting opinion as fact - and whether you are happy with the outcome or not, the quality of debate was poorer as a result.

It drives me up the wall. There is even a major TV advertising campaign entirely predicated on the assertion that something is not a forecast, it is a fact and not an (informed) opinion/guess - I might even be enough of a pedant to contact the ASA!

I sort of work in the media and that they do it intentionally also grates with me terribly - as does their wish to create opposing positions, i.e. that informed debate is served by creating 'heat' rather than 'light' when in my view the opposite is true.

[villadelph]

What the hell is going on in this thread.

Christ almighty.

[Steve67]

Please, if you wish to open a new thread about what you personally might get upset about, such as, use of the word cancer, on a message board, can you please open the thread and debate in off topic over there. I am beginning to think that people are deliberately trying to derail the transfer thread by revisiting and revisiting what was discussed several pages ago. No, I am not a mod and yes, who the fuck do I think I am, STOP please!!!

[brontebilly]

Chris Forrester with two goals today for Peterborough. Surprised they have been able to hold onto him so far in the transfer window. They made him captain a few weeks back.

[ADVILLAFAN]

We need Footyskillz to step in with possible transfer targets

[LukeJames]

Chris Forrester with two goals today for Peterborough. Surprised they have been able to hold onto him so far in the transfer window. They made him captain a few weeks back.

What ever happened to harry forrester? He looked like a cracking prospect at one point?

[john2710]

And can we please not use terms like "cancer" when talking about players, no matter how shite they are.

And Chris, it was obviously a joke, so wind your neck in.

So the word Cancer is banned from the site no matter what the definition?

Which bit of "when talking about players" did you miss?

Unless of course we hear of a player with cancer I suppose.

Over the top reaction by all.  Cancer is not solely a medical term, and if the original poster was alluding to his supposed malign influence on the dressing room, it wouldn't be wide of the mark.

Of course it is, 'Cancer' is widely used as a metaphor in all sorts of situations. If anyone finds that offensive I suggest they grow a thicker skin. 

I suggest you accept that people find different things offensive.

I accept it, but that doesn't make it right. However I know you love nothing better than sitting a top your righteous high horse so I will leave it at that.

No, you'll just leave.

Were you an only child?

I'm an only child & I'm offended by whatever it is you're trying to insinuate!

Why are you offended ?

What is being insinuated ?

I was being sarcastic but apologise in advance if that offends anyone.

[Steve67]

Hasn't Forrester gone to Rangers in Scotland?