Quote from: Tom_Mc9? on September 10, 2017, 11:52:10 AMI don't know, over the last year or so I have felt that the following should have been picked over Gabby at various stages:- Hogan- RHM- McCormack- Gestede- AyewI have also thought that midfielders could have played over him at various points. My point is more that his years are so long ago he just should not be in contention anymore. I don't even think he should be at the club.With regards to yesterday, I would not have brought him on. Not because of the players that were on the pitch were performing well, but because I preferred all of the other substitutes. Gabby is yesterday's man. One goal in a year or so should be better evidence of that than anything I write.All of your list have been given chances instead of Gabby. Their 'performances' are the reason Gabby is still getting into the match day 18.The point I am trying to make is that we need to realise where the real problem lies, not pretending it's down to individual players. Get a decent manager who knows how to use players correctly, who goes out to attack when warranted, and who "does do tactics", then most of these players would benefit - maybe even Gabby.
I don't know, over the last year or so I have felt that the following should have been picked over Gabby at various stages:- Hogan- RHM- McCormack- Gestede- AyewI have also thought that midfielders could have played over him at various points. My point is more that his years are so long ago he just should not be in contention anymore. I don't even think he should be at the club.With regards to yesterday, I would not have brought him on. Not because of the players that were on the pitch were performing well, but because I preferred all of the other substitutes. Gabby is yesterday's man. One goal in a year or so should be better evidence of that than anything I write.
Ayew was played sparingly? He played in all but 2 games under Bruce that he was here for.
The reason that Agbonlahor is still here while the other players mentioned are not, is that there isn't another club stupid enough to take the fat waster off our hands.
An example should have been made of him and his contract wrote off. Easy to say when it's not my money but if Xia is as wealthy as he claims then it would be a price worth paying to highlight what isn't acceptable.
Quote from: Villa75 on September 10, 2017, 09:47:20 AMHe's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.Amen.
He's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.
Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on September 10, 2017, 11:56:23 AMQuote from: Villa75 on September 10, 2017, 09:47:20 AMHe's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.Amen.Double amen. This is as near to common sense as I have read on here for some time.
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Quote from: paul_e on September 12, 2017, 02:28:18 PMFor me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?