Gabby

[aj2k77]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

To which he's repeatedly turned up for work in no fit condition to fully participate. He should have been sacked if it were a normal work place.

[Ron Manager]

Agbonlahor has the upper hand in this situation. He has about two years left on his well paid contract. If he turns up on time for training each day and trains properly there is absolutely nothing the owner/management can do except pay up his contract which does not seem feasible due to the vast ammount involved.

If Xia thinks he can get him out using other tactics he will find the PFA will be on his case pretty damn quick.

[Stirchley Villain]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

To which he's repeatedly turned up for work in no fit condition to fully participate. He should have been sacked if it were a normal work place.

Well they should have done that then, not implied he wasn't a man.

[Hookeysmith]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

Aj2ak47 beat me to it

Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.

A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.

Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings

[Stirchley Villain]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

Aj2ak47 beat me to it

Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.

A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.

Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings

An employment tribunal would probably disagree with you there.

[Hookeysmith]

Agbonlahor has the upper hand in this situation. He has about two years left on his well paid contract. If he turns up on time for training each day and trains properly there is absolutely nothing the owner/management can do except pay up his contract which does not seem feasible due to the vast ammount involved.

If Xia thinks he can get him out using other tactics he will find the PFA will be on his case pretty damn quick.

I agree paying a footballer lots of money is not a punishment - but we found out to our cost if you don't pull a bad tooth it will eventually rot all the others. This is not a young Grealish pissed up on holiday misdemeanour. This was a calculated series of events over a good few years where he thought his reputation as local hero meant he could give up being a footballer.

As a player he was in his pomp above average, as a man he is a weasel and Tony is right to tell us he is also

[Hookeysmith]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

Aj2ak47 beat me to it

Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.

A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.

Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings

An employment tribunal would probably disagree with you there.

That they would disagree does not mean they would be right - FFS pube head got a payment via them for being a petulant child

[edgysatsuma89]

Houllier clocked on to the waster years ago. This isn't just a 'last 12 months' scenario. I couldn't give a shit how he is treated after the way he has treated the club which has given him so much riches and opportunities.

[Toronto Villa]

I can imagine they are working on a pay off. As much of a cock Richards is I don't think he'll be a huge distraction and can actually cover/contribute something until he's gone. Gabby is a distraction and the club has clearly decided he's not all wanted near the premises. Like it or not the owner has publicly called out the player and it's something that should have been done a long time ago. This is a player who has stolen a living over the past few years and the club has made him very rich indeed. I have no sympathy for Gabby and especially considering he'll be released from his contract a very rich man.

[Des Little]

I can dream, but if he's not going to play again, we should ask him to do the ambassador-type stuff with Acorns etc...it might even help him endear himself to fans if they could see him making a contribution.  Can't see it though.

[mallo]

Pave the way for a quick exit in January.

[Stirchley Villain]

Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"

Fair play to him

A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.

Aj2ak47 beat me to it

Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.

A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.

Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings

An employment tribunal would probably disagree with you there.

That they would disagree does not mean they would be right - FFS pube head got a payment via them for being a petulant child

Don't worry I share your pain! I just thought Tony made himself look a bit small by saying he wasn't a man. He's at that level where you'd expect a bit more restraint

[ez]

He's obviously going to say no to any suggestion apart from a pay off. Bomb squading him to lower ranks is out as he is a bad influence so i'd keep him on the books but tell him to make his own arrangements for training.

[KRS]

This is a rare situation and it would appear that any kind of rules and regulations support and protect the player. When the rules and regulations were put in place, they didn't take into account these types of situations and the club should be doing whatever it takes from a legal perspective to challenge any rights of employment to players that conduct themselves in the manner that GA has done. People should not be able to get away from this legalised extortion and be protected from any action regardless of their profession, and the laws need to be adapted accordingly. It's simply a ridiculous farce that players are allowed and entitled to get away with this.

[old man villa fan]

He's obviously going to say no to any suggestion apart from a pay off. Bomb squading him to lower ranks is out as he is a bad influence so i'd keep him on the books but tell him to make his own arrangements for training.

Exactly what I would do.  Tell him to come back in January to review the situation i.e. look for a loan away from Villa Park.  If GA refuses a loan, send him away until the end of season.  If he can't see his career going down the drain, that's his problem.  At the same time we should be offering him a pay off of around 25-50% of his remaining contract at each stage (assuming he has taken a pay cut due to relegation) so that he can take the money and become a free agent if he wishes.