Consecutive Years in division before TSM mk2 appointed
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on April 13, 2019, 11:20:18 PMThe thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away. Is this the image you're referring to, Paulie?
The thing that gets forgotten about Lambert is that when he was here, after his first (unimpressive) year, he retained huge levels of support from our fans. There was a huge amount of patience for what he was trying to do.I think the mistake he made was becoming a poster boy for the austere times Lerner was inflicting on us. Once he made that change it was like he accepted and defended mediocrity, on the basis that he could get away with it.In the 40 plus years I've been watching us, I've seen some pretty fucking depressing things at villa park but nothing, not even McNeill or McLeish tops the sheet austere grimness of looking at our bench and seeing Lambert and Roy Keane sat there, grim faced with matching unkempt beards, looking like a pair of piss soaked tramps thinking about chucking themselves under a bus to make it all end.Lambert had all that goodwill and he threw it away.
I was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.
Signing players that we can develop and improve isn't a bad idea in itself. Westwood Bacuna Lawton Bennett are all (just about) still in the premier league.The problem was we didn't supplement them with really good senior pros and some simply weren't ready. I had another look at some of our transfer windows, its not pretty.One for the forgot he played for us thread, but I didn't know he'd signed Simon Dawkins for Ipswich. They must have the same agent or something.
Quote from: danno on April 14, 2019, 03:12:12 PMSigning players that we can develop and improve isn't a bad idea in itself. Westwood Bacuna Lawton Bennett are all (just about) still in the premier league.The problem was we didn't supplement them with really good senior pros and some simply weren't ready. I had another look at some of our transfer windows, its not pretty.One for the forgot he played for us thread, but I didn't know he'd signed Simon Dawkins for Ipswich. They must have the same agent or something.Is that the same Dawkins who appears in the media and reckons there isn't a God? It was during Lambert's reign at Villa that I became convinced there wasn't a God either.
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on April 14, 2019, 02:46:29 PMI was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.And me. I was with him right up to that Hull game. I was done after that and, luckily, so was the board.
Quote from: Dave P on April 14, 2019, 03:02:23 PMQuote from: Sexual Ealing on April 14, 2019, 02:46:29 PMI was one of the very last to turn on him. I have no idea what I was thinking.And me. I was with him right up to that Hull game. I was done after that and, luckily, so was the board. Same here. I admit I thought he was a better manager than his subsequent career suggests . On the other hand I'm not sure that having the fans on his back was helpful in any way - the real problem was RL pulling the plug on Villa to fund his divorce. If not for that we'd have had a better manager than Lambert in the first place, as well as a far better squad.
I have already listed his career in detail on H&V in the past. Basically apart from Norwich he has been a failure everywhere else.