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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #630 on: January 22, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »
I have no trust that anything any of them do or say will turn out positive after the last decade. The owner has mostly employed people who do poor jobs, I don't trust his judgement, so why would I now? I will give them time, as I've done with all the appointments but expect nothing from any of them and will be pleasantly surprised if they do well.

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« Reply #631 on: January 22, 2016, 11:10:13 AM »
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1so7ebb

Ah bless him the delicate little flower.

Collymore, an annoying sideshow to be honest.

I'm surprised he's let this get to him bearing in mind the stick he gets week in week out. If I were him I'd ignore it, who gives a toss what a few idiots do, our fans dont exactly have the best reputation after recent weeks so why take them seriously?

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« Reply #632 on: January 22, 2016, 11:10:47 AM »
Collymore is a laughable suggestion as a board member though.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #633 on: January 22, 2016, 11:16:40 AM »
It is as I said, they don't talk in a way fans understand.

It was surreal for me last night. I heard them say perfectly reasonable things about our situation, and looked around and saw fans with their head in their hands in genuine despair.

The disconnect in communication is a serous problem. I don't understand it. It wasn't even like the fans there weren't intelligent people, it's something in the way that fans understand football that is totally different to what these guys are used to, and they don't connect with it.

(I think I hear it because I have had one to ones, which are a better exchange of understanding, as others who have met them on this basis seem to hear them more like me)

Nothing wrong with what they are saying, but somehow, something very badly wrong with how they say it. That's what they need their 'football man' for.







Obviously cannot comment on last night specifically but more generally I think the trust for the organisation is so far gone that pretty much anything they say is going to be viewed negatively. The only way that will change is by seeing some tangible change in fortunes over a consistent period. The board are just going to have to take it the chin for now.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #634 on: January 22, 2016, 11:16:47 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #635 on: January 22, 2016, 11:18:00 AM »
It is as I said, they don't talk in a way fans understand.

It was surreal for me last night. I heard them say perfectly reasonable things about our situation, and looked around and saw fans with their head in their hands in genuine despair.

The disconnect in communication is a serous problem. I don't understand it. It wasn't even like the fans there weren't intelligent people, it's something in the way that fans understand football that is totally different to what these guys are used to, and they don't connect with it.

(I think I hear it because I have had one to ones, which are a better exchange of understanding, as others who have met them on this basis seem to hear them more like me)

Nothing wrong with what they are saying, but somehow, something very badly wrong with how they say it. That's what they need their 'football man' for.


I think they were always on a hiding to nothing yesterday and it's to their credit that faced the fans. There were accusations of them having thrown in the towel when they spoke about being prepared for relegation. Had they said they were determined for us to stay up, no doubt they'd have been accused of being unrealistic or delusional.

Amfy is completely correct that between them they spoke a lot of sense but it gets lost in a lot of inappropriate jargon. The best example of this was when Fox was answering a question on the club's activities during the transfer window and how the club's current league placing has hampered our efforts at bringing in new players and also touched on how this relates to the long term strategy and yet at the end of the meeting people were still shouting "Buy some players!" at him.

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« Reply #636 on: January 22, 2016, 11:23:36 AM »
It is as I said, they don't talk in a way fans understand.

It was surreal for me last night. I heard them say perfectly reasonable things about our situation, and looked around and saw fans with their head in their hands in genuine despair.

The disconnect in communication is a serous problem. I don't understand it. It wasn't even like the fans there weren't intelligent people, it's something in the way that fans understand football that is totally different to what these guys are used to, and they don't connect with it.

(I think I hear it because I have had one to ones, which are a better exchange of understanding, as others who have met them on this basis seem to hear them more like me)

Nothing wrong with what they are saying, but somehow, something very badly wrong with how they say it. That's what they need their 'football man' for.


The best example of this was when Fox was answering a question on the club's activities during the transfer window and how the club's current league placing has hampered our efforts at bringing in new players and also touched on how this relates to the long term strategy and yet at the end of the meeting people were still shouting "Buy some players!" at him.


Clueless, this is why the fans aren't taken seriously.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #637 on: January 22, 2016, 11:24:19 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

'erudite' - yep - that's the problem I think!

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« Reply #638 on: January 22, 2016, 11:26:24 AM »
To be honest how are very unhappy fans of the rock bottom club who have almost, who have signed no one whilst other clubs around them strengthen going to vent? They're hardly likely to shout keep the war chest until summer! I think people are just angry and looking for a lift from somewhere and sales patter and business jargon isn't the most inspiring and just goes over peoples heads. Deep down, we all know we aren't going to get anyone decent in right now and we know why.

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« Reply #639 on: January 22, 2016, 11:27:08 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

Same here.
Actually I was at the AGM and I don't remember anyone roaring with laughter at the Collymore  suggestion, in fact for the life of me I can't even remember his name mentioned.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #640 on: January 22, 2016, 11:33:32 AM »
It is as I said, they don't talk in a way fans understand.

It was surreal for me last night. I heard them say perfectly reasonable things about our situation, and looked around and saw fans with their head in their hands in genuine despair.

The disconnect in communication is a serous problem. I don't understand it. It wasn't even like the fans there weren't intelligent people, it's something in the way that fans understand football that is totally different to what these guys are used to, and they don't connect with it.

(I think I hear it because I have had one to ones, which are a better exchange of understanding, as others who have met them on this basis seem to hear them more like me)

Nothing wrong with what they are saying, but somehow, something very badly wrong with how they say it. That's what they need their 'football man' for.


The best example of this was when Fox was answering a question on the club's activities during the transfer window and how the club's current league placing has hampered our efforts at bringing in new players and also touched on how this relates to the long term strategy and yet at the end of the meeting people were still shouting "Buy some players!" at him.


Clueless, this is why the fans aren't taken seriously.

Oh please!
'Players won't come because we're rock bottom' sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Players will come if you show them the money, but that's the problem right there. They won't spend the money.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #641 on: January 22, 2016, 11:34:11 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

Same here.
Actually I was at the AGM and I don't remember anyone roaring with laughter at the Collymore  suggestion, in fact for the life of me I can't even remember his name mentioned.

There was a general statement made about having a Villa man on the board in some capacity and his was a name mentioned along with Brian Little, Ian Taylor, Graham Taylor. There was a guffaw or two but nothing like the gales of laughter suggested by "one blogger" that Stan is so upset about.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #642 on: January 22, 2016, 11:35:32 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

Same here.
Actually I was at the AGM and I don't remember anyone roaring with laughter at the Collymore  suggestion, in fact for the life of me I can't even remember his name mentioned.

If that's the case, sounds like someone trying to make a name for themselves on Twatter by slagging Collymore.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #643 on: January 22, 2016, 11:36:34 AM »
I've always thought he comes across very erudite.....

Same here.
Actually I was at the AGM and I don't remember anyone roaring with laughter at the Collymore  suggestion, in fact for the life of me I can't even remember his name mentioned.

If that's the case, sounds like someone trying to make a name for themselves on Twatter by slagging Collymore.

That's exactly what it sounds like to me.

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« Reply #644 on: January 22, 2016, 11:41:40 AM »
It is as I said, they don't talk in a way fans understand.

It was surreal for me last night. I heard them say perfectly reasonable things about our situation, and looked around and saw fans with their head in their hands in genuine despair.

The disconnect in communication is a serous problem. I don't understand it. It wasn't even like the fans there weren't intelligent people, it's something in the way that fans understand football that is totally different to what these guys are used to, and they don't connect with it.

(I think I hear it because I have had one to ones, which are a better exchange of understanding, as others who have met them on this basis seem to hear them more like me)

Nothing wrong with what they are saying, but somehow, something very badly wrong with how they say it. That's what they need their 'football man' for.


The best example of this was when Fox was answering a question on the club's activities during the transfer window and how the club's current league placing has hampered our efforts at bringing in new players and also touched on how this relates to the long term strategy and yet at the end of the meeting people were still shouting "Buy some players!" at him.


Clueless, this is why the fans aren't taken seriously.

Players will come if you show them the money, but that's the problem right there. They won't spend the money.

Yep just the type of player we need..... Nzogbia anybody? Would be crazy of the board to adopt that kind of thinking.

 


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