Sunderland v Rock Bottom Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Flamingo Lane]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

[aj2k77]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

[Olof's Beard]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

[Malandro]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

The needless fouls by Bacuna and Gueye have also been a theme.

[saunders_heroes]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

The needless fouls by Bacuna and Gueye have also been a theme.

True. We give away so many needless fouls in dangerous areas and it's been going on for well before Garde turned up. I think it's more down to the low standard of players we have in the squad. The players get frustrated and just hack away at the opposition players.

[tomd2103]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

The needless fouls by Bacuna and Gueye have also been a theme.

True. We give away so many needless fouls in dangerous areas and it's been going on for well before Garde turned up. I think it's more down to the low standard of players we have in the squad. The players get frustrated and just hack away at the opposition players.

Yep, Clark and Baker in particular have always been prone to needless fouls in dangerous areas.

[auntiesledd]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

The needless fouls by Bacuna and Gueye have also been a theme.

As have their continual rubbish impressions of a professional footballer.

[Mortimer's Bear]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

Garde looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He doesn't come across as being capable of bollocking them in the dressing room to me.

[rob_bridge]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

Garde looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He doesn't come across as being capable of bollocking them in the dressing room to me.

Bollocking - you think they'll respond to that? You think they (will) care.

'What happened at work today?'
'The boss bollocked us but as you know we are professional footballers so whoever does it, it is like being savaged by a sheep.'
'Oh right - are you ok?'
'fine but some expro hurt my feelings on Twitter saying I made a mistake, which I didn't and even if I did it is none of his business despite being paid to point things out'
'Nevermind D arling - look at the new car we are buying to replace last month's model. I'll forgive you shagging that slapper in that trendy London nightspot if you buy this.''

[Mortimer's Bear]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

That goal also pissed me off because it was a virtual carbon copy of the West Ham goal on boxing day. No cover ahead of Hutton, meaning their left back can advance for an easy pop on goal. You could say we got unlucky when Cresswell struck a beauty into the corner, and we definitely got unlucky yesterday, but equally we repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Two left backs have scored against us in two games, so it's no surprise a wily old goalscorer like Defoe helped himself to a couple.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

Garde looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He doesn't come across as being capable of bollocking them in the dressing room to me.

Bollocking - you think they'll respond to that? You think they (will) care.

'What happened at work today?'
'The boss bollocked us but as you know we are professional footballers so whoever does it, it is like being savaged by a sheep.'
'Oh right - are you ok?'
'fine but some expro hurt my feelings on Twitter saying I made a mistake, which I didn't and even if I did it is none of his business despite being paid to point things out'
'Nevermind D arling - look at the new car we are buying to replace last month's model. I'll forgive you shagging that slapper in that trendy London nightspot if you buy this.''

As their manager it's part of his job.

[Nunkin1965]

Right. Thats it.

After spending years watching all contributions both mighty and small. Sublime and ridiculous in this swimming pool of debate, comment and opinion, I'm going to dive in. I'm not the best of swimmers so be gentle.

 Although i've been a fan since a kid, my actual real support of Villa (going to games) has almost turned full circle. The distant days of Steve Hunt, Warren Aspinall, Dean Glover etc etc were when I started to visit and now after over 25 years of season ticket ownership the club returns to those dark days.

Yesterday was bad but the 2 minutes preceeding Jermaine Defoe's second goal stood out for me.

I stood and watched with the heroes that travelled as Villa produced 2 minutes of pure comedy. The only thing missing was some sort of background theme tune. A total farce. Keaton, Chaplain, Laurel & Hardy?

This was up there with the best.

Thanks very much guys.

[darren woolley]

It just get's worse for us defeat after defeat and the fact Sunderland are pretty rubbish I can't see us getting out of this mess.

[LukeJames]

The goal that annoyed me the most was actually their first, with Richards standing as if his arms were tied behind his back despite being a full fifteen yards away from the player with the ball.  No wonder he was off balance when the ball then came in his direction.

What is it with his ridiculous hands behind the back Tony Moon impression? How big does he think his hands are? Just stand there and defend you cock.

It cut to Garde after that goal went in and he was clearly seething. The players are utterly stupid and get punished every time, and he doesn't appear to be able to get through to them.

I noticed that too, he was going ape shit, I'm glad of this.

[saunders_heroes]

It just get's worse for us defeat after defeat and the fact Sunderland are pretty rubbish I can't see us getting out of this mess.

How many games we got left, 18? I'd say we'd have to win 9 or 10 of them. Jesus!

[Nunkin1965]

Yes. Way too late with this squad.

The Proud history scarf is symbolic to the Lerner era.

 Surely we should include this in some sort of protest?