Sunderland v Rock Bottom Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Percy McCarthy]

Championship next season and unless we get a buyer we could be there for many seasons. Feel for the fans who made the trip.

My mate came over from America.

And no, it's not Randy.

[The Situation]

Should of gone with Roberto Martinez like I said four years ago.

No decent manager would touch us with our wage/transfer budget.

We spent a lot this summer, but not much really considering we sold two players for a combined £40 million. Villa fans complaining about "how we didn't replace Benteke" - no shit, of course we can't replace the best striker I've seen play for Villa but with Benteke we were always down at the bottom for the last 3 seasons. We stayed up because of his goals, but you can't blame "not replacing Benteke" for Villa's conference league defending this season.

We have a decent squad, I was actually positive pre-season, I really liked the players Sherwood brought to the club, however it's just been a giant mess.

Either way, I was right about Martinez and Aston Villa FC has been in a steady decline ever since we opted for Alex McLeish.

[aj2k77]

We have a decent squad? Where have we been hiding them?

[The Situation]

The same way Chelsea have been hiding, albeit they have the third most expensive squad in the league and when you put it into perspective Chelsea fans feel exactly the same way as a Villa fans - fed up.

Traore and Carlos Gil are our two best players yet they never start for us - how fucked up is that?

Edit: Jordan Ayew is also one of the three best players... Everyone else after that has been so poor.

[clash city rocker]

Contemplating  going out and buying a bedsheets tomorrow to make a banner for the palace game. I know it won't do any good but another few quid on top of the hundreds I fork out to watch villa won't hurt I reckon ..was thinking something along lines of...Lerner & fox..you've made us laughing stocks.

[JUAN PABLO]

Obviously questions are being asked about Garde, and so they should be.
Yes, he inherited a basket case, yes the damage was probably already done and maybe we were/are beyond redemption.
But, there he been so little improvement since he came, we still have no idea whether he is the right man for the job.

Do we risk the fact he might not be upto the task of building a team capable of getting us back up?

agree Andy

I know he has shit players but he keeps playing some of the same old shit and makes some bad decisions

I mean If richards has a contract to only play CB , well thats one reason the club is going down . Grow some balls Garde , put him at RB , If he dont want , dont play the c**** and drop that Gestede please !!!

[Walmley_Villa]

Contemplating  going out and buying a bedsheets tomorrow to make a banner for the palace game. I know it won't do any good but another few quid on top of the hundreds I fork out to watch villa won't hurt I reckon ..was thinking something along lines of...Lerner & fox..you've made us laughing stocks.

Watch the stewards search for banners at the next home games, old Foxy won't want any humiliation in front of his corporate guests!

[frank]

On the train with Boro fans, a reminder that teams can rise again. Sadly, I can't see us doing that in the near future. Today we hit rock bottom and this was reflected in the jeering, booing and chants of "Lerner out". No one played well and several players were awful, in particular Guzan, Gestede and Lescott. Gil too was very poor apart from the excellent goal. He was very involved, found space but then almost always gave the ball away or was bundled off the ball. Jack was anonymous. Bacuna began well in midfield but was exposed again when he took over from Hutton. Traoré has real pace but his crossing, with one exception, was erratic. Kozak, after all the calls for his introduction, reminded us that he really isn't very good.

Of course we know that the squad is extremely weak and that's not the manager's fault, and we can understand that confidence is low,  but it's difficult to see that he's having any sort of influence. Can he keep us up? No. Can he stabilise the team next season and win promotion? Very unlikely.

[Walmley_Villa]

Obviously questions are being asked about Garde, and so they should be.
Yes, he inherited a basket case, yes the damage was probably already done and maybe we were/are beyond redemption.
But, there he been so little improvement since he came, we still have no idea whether he is the right man for the job.

Do we risk the fact he might not be upto the task of building a team capable of getting us back up?

agree Andy

I know he has shit players but he keeps playing some of the same old shit and makes some bad decisions

I mean If richards has a contract to only play CB , well thats one reason the club is going down . Grow some balls Garde , put him at RB , If he dont want , dont play the c**** and drop that Gestede please !!!

As Captain of the club he should be willing to play anywhere and to set an example to his team.....

[glasses]

A week or so ago I was saying that man for man I didn't think our squad was much different to leicesters if you took out Jamie Vardy who is playing out of his skin. We outplayed them for 60 minutes this season before Sherwoods bewildering decision making. Individually isn't the issue here. We have no cohesion. No style of play, or team ethic. No desire, confidence. There has never seemed to be a game plan. We've not had the ability to make game changing substitutions. Too many players, even our more talented ones seem to just turn up, lose, go home, train, get paid, buy shit, enjoy themselves, the  repeat the cycle. Nobody at the club seems to actually care that were being humiliated each week, it just us fans who are hurting

[mallo]

Should of gone with Roberto Martinez like I said four years ago.

First post for nearly 3 years and it's an 'I told you so'.

There's actually a few other "told you so" posts I can try and find but I won't haha. Feels weird, forgot about this site. So much has been happening, one thing that has stayed the same is Villa are still terrible since I last posted.

Basically, as far as this season is concerned... Villa are down. I just accept it now so it won't be heartbreaking come May with our relegation party. Sherwood should of been given more time - he made mistakes by playing Gabby "zero brains" Agbinlahor, early in the season and we were only just narrowily losing games, but I believe he would of kickstarted things eventually.

I honestly think we'd have been fighting ourselves on the pitch if sherwood was still in charge.

Anyway, we're down now - well done Learner - an excellent guide on how to relegate a club through employing clueless idiots. Apart from QPR and Sunderland I can't think of a club who spent so badly to guarantee relegation. We now have to put up with the stink of being the worst ever team in the Premiership and probably by the end of the season, ever. Nice touch.

[Steve67]

Throw your proud history bright future scarves on the pitch at half time. Bed sheets etc, time to be heard. We are having the piss taken out of us something chronic, it's disgraceful.

[LukeJames]

Conceed the first goal and we are fucked, our confidence is that brittle that there is a collective dropping of heads when we conceed, we've started the last 3 games and played the better football, not taken our chances and been then conceeded, after that point the players hide, simple passes go 5 yards wide of there targets, players cant control a bag of sand, its our biggest problem out of a huge list of problems.

[JUAN PABLO]

and all i hear is Gestede is the best in the air by all these bloody commentators

well im not seeing any evidence of that

good in the air at catching flies maybe

what about the coaches teaching a prem ( laugh my bollocks off ) player to pass a ball . He makes Stevie Wonder look like Tony Daley.

how the ell does he stay on for 90 minutes .

hes a joke , the club is a joke , in fact we should all turn up in clown outfits for the next game , because this club have made us the laughing stock of all the leagues.

[aj2k77]

The same way Chelsea have been hiding, albeit they have the third most expensive squad in the league and when you put it into perspective Chelsea fans feel exactly the same way as a Villa fans - fed up.

Traore and Carlos Gil are our two best players yet they never start for us - how fucked up is that?

Chelsea have the title winning squad from last season. We have the squad that finished 17th without it's two best players and most experienced defender. We have the squad that's been consistently poor for years.