Sunderland v Rock Bottom Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[richard moore]

https://twitter.com/masonecho/status/683339919113191425

Excellent to see, I hope the coach breaks down on the A1 back and it's pissing it down with wind and blowing a gale. Bunch of shits, the lot of them.

[tomd2103]

Yep, scum indeed

We're probably down now unless there's a miracle. In my opinion our last chance was lost when we turned our nose up to Moyes, but then again he'd have demanded a transfer/wage budget worthy of a club like Aston Villa and probably wouldn't have took the job.
What a shitfest Randy has turned us into. Shame on you.

Lerner is scum mate. Never have I seen someone completely abdicate responsibility for a club the way this charlatan has, you can see why he was mates with Colonel Blinky, fakes the pair of them.

I think Scum is a little strong,  but right about about hiding while the club falls down around him.

Do you? I think it doesn't even begin to do him justice

I too think "scum" is a bit strong.  Incompetent and even negligent, yes, but scum is a bit too much.

[passport1]

'The last ten minutes today were embarrassing'

That what was what Ken McNaught said as well.

[E I Adio]

I have finally come around to accepting the fact that I am now in agreement that this is the worst Villa side in the history of my Villa supporting career.  I'm sixty-seven and have seen some right doozies.

I think you're right. I've always thought of the '69 - '70 team to be the worst I've seen, but in retrospect there were a few of that team that later formed the nucleus of our revival (Lochhead/McMahon/Anderson)

I can't imagine any of this current lot that I will be able to say that of.

(Actually, the '68 - '69 lot were probably worse.)

[aj2k77]

https://twitter.com/masonecho/status/683339919113191425

No players in shot and about 2 people singing.

Richardson, Guzan and Sinclair walk out right at the start. Surprised Sinclair made it out of the door without running in to it.

[VinnieChase84]

https://twitter.com/masonecho/status/683339919113191425

No players in shot and about 2 people singing.

Richardson, Guzan and Sinclair walk out right at the start. Surprised Sinclair made it out of the door without running in to it.

Sinclair comment - 😂😂😂

[auntiesledd]

Okey - Blaming Garde for this? - it is that fucking team of players that is at fault

Again, we start tactically good (like before), and then we start making problems for ourselves. Risso - you ask me what has he done? - We have started most game tactically pretty good, and get undone by fucking player mistakes - and then the rest of the bunch goes to piece.

We are  not disciplined enough, and the others know that.

Gil and Grealish DID NOT IMPROVE US, but we have a very weak team. Hutton - there is a fucking reason he got an anger management certificate in secret santa.

Today we started well - yet then we have poor individuals - is that the managers fault? He is picking the best of a bad bunch - Traore? Apparently there were fitness issues, as he was subbed due to the same. Maybe - JUST MAYBE - the manager knows more than we do?

The Bacuna throw in tells our season in one move - how the fuck has the manager any clue about that? It is starting to look like players are sabotaging the club.

I am weeping - this is fucking horrible - but lets point where it is needed: (Fucking top management - Tom Fox get the fuck out of here, Players - do your work - Lerner - Sell......)

Veretout who was slated is our best player with Ayew. So who ever is slating our scouting department should think again. It is the mentality of the squad - Is it real enough for the rest to stop, just because Lerner is a fucking clown? - for me no! I have worked for an idiot - but I still pulled my weight - and so should the players.

Fucking ridiculous 

Edit: sorry for my faulty grammar - this was typed while being very emotional.

Did you work for an invisible idiot who took bugger-all interest in the company (after he'd put it up for sale) though?

This is internal fun - but yes I did - I was manager at a company that he put of for sale, and wanted only his profit... So YES - and us in the buffer between management and middle management made the company profitable, as we had respect for the whole institution, including all employees.

You evidently had the advantage of having a capable staff who were able to perform well regardless. The Villa have none & the employees have become as inadequate & unmotivated as the cretin who runs the show from afar. And it's been like that for fucking years.

Yes - I totally agree! I had a group of individuals that were proud performing - and this is where I see the biggest fault of Villa - a lot of players that do shit all... And that is not the fault of anyone but the top - (okey - if you have bad individuals, then what can you do). But - if the top to bottom all believe in the same goal, then you get results! my experience

But if an owner is as useless as Lerner & constantly replaces key members of staff with those who are inexperienced, cheaper & less skilled, how on earth can any organisation continue to be a success?

[aj2k77]

https://twitter.com/masonecho/status/683339919113191425

Excellent to see, I hope the coach breaks down on the A1 back and it's pissing it down with wind and blowing a gale. Bunch of shits, the lot of them.

They could ride Rudy back to Birmingham.

[itbrvilla]

These aren't Garde's players. There was sign of genuine improvement until the Norwich game. Listened on the radio today. Well beaten by a poor Sunderland team. Where has the improvement gone? A poor side becomes a very poor side when players aren't available.

We're any of those players today Fat Sams players?

[b23]

Read that the players have received chants of "you're not fit to wear the shirt" as they got on the team bus

Whilst I've no doubt they would deserve it, but the chances of them being showered, changed, met all their media obligations, etc in half an hour is quite remote.

Maybe it was just before the bus left Aston for Sunderland ?

[LTA]

We're probably down now unless there's a miracle. In my opinion our last chance was lost when we turned our nose up to Moyes, but then again he'd have demanded a transfer/wage budget worthy of a club like Aston Villa and probably wouldn't have took the job.
What a shitfest Randy has turned us into. Shame on you.

Lerner is scum mate. Never have I seen someone completely abdicate responsibility for a club the way this charlatan has, you can see why he was mates with Colonel Blinky, fakes the pair of them.

I think Scum is a little strong,  but right about about hiding while the club falls down around him.

Nah, he's scum. An imbecile of the highest order that has organized a business structure that allows him to deflect all means of accountability.

What's his home address, I'd love to send him a hand-written.

I know your angry like we all are, but there's people in the world who deserve to be called scum more than inept football club owners.  I'm no more a fan of Lerner than you, but let's have some perspective.

[Bad English]

Garde, a cheese eating surrender monkey.

My wife and children say "Bollocks you lobster-faced rosbif!"

[Edvard Remberg]

Garde, a cheese eating surrender monkey. This appointment was never going to work and can only have been made for one reason. He's cheap to employ. Left his previous job in France for personal reasons and hints that he couldn't take the pressure. Nothing to be ashamed of but not a glowing endorsement to get a job at the Arse end of the premier league is it.

That is despicable - So compared to the others he replaced he is " a cheese eating surrendering monkey"?  Get a grip. I am angry, and disappointed - yet this type of throw in the towel is out of order. Is it the managers fault a player throws a ball to the other team?

FFS

We may as well have kept Sherwood then.

For me - not really , because I am seeing tactical things that are an improvement (not result wise, i might add).

Your defence of Garde is understandable, the problem I have is that he seems to still be learning everything we already knew and he should have known about these players. It was crying out for a new approach, we have done pretty much the same both in tactics and personnel that we were doing before he came and getting the same results.This Garde team has no distinctive style or personality. Sadly he has achieved fuck all so there has been no point to his appointment.

Well I disagree - Sherwood was pretty lost. I felt that in the beginning he could start a good team, then in second half, he had no counter - so he started a poorer approach, so that the others couldn't counter his original approach (ergo idiot).

We start reasonably well - but the squad is to poor to keep it during a match - e.g. Bacuna throw in?

[levico]

I now want relegation confirmed as soon as possible.  So much needs to be done to try and get us even competitive in the Championship.

We simply have to get back straight away to limit the damage being out of the Premier League.

Sadly.  I wouldn't put money on a short stay in that league.

I disagree. I think we will have a very short stay indeed.

[clash city rocker]

Listening to 5 live I heard pat Murphy say..the 10 men of Bournemouth look determined, fit and well coached.. wish we had just one of those attributes.