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Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #195 on: November 28, 2015, 07:24:49 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue. Neither is our approach to transfers. The question is whether it has happened all too late? Has too much damage been done for it to make a difference? We need to sustain it because even if we do go down we cannot afford to change directions again. It will kill us off completely.

The lack of investment is what's killing us. We need to smash our transfer record in January to stand any chance of staying up. No more lower league rubbish and no untried foreigners. We need Premer League players, and you have to pay the going rate to get them.
Give them relegation clauses and they might just come. It's all about the money.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #196 on: November 28, 2015, 07:25:27 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue. Neither is our approach to transfers. The question is whether it has happened all too late? Has too much damage been done for it to make a difference? We need to sustain it because even if we do go down we cannot afford to change directions again. It will kill us off completely.

i really fear for us in the championship, we will lose any half decent players, will need players to be very physical and it will be an fa cup final for the majority of teams who come to vp.

if we arent back up in two seasons we are finished

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #197 on: November 28, 2015, 07:26:38 PM »
The executive set up is an issue though because they will remain in their places as we tumble, what has made them qualified for the positions they currently occupy? I don't normally agree with Collymore on anything, he's a gobshite, but I agree with him that to a man everyone running the show at the Villa are working above their means. The set up itself isn't what's wrong, it's who's occupying those positions.



Couldn't agree more.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #198 on: November 28, 2015, 07:26:45 PM »
Of course the set up is wrong, how else could we be in this position.
It was pretty obvious that this squad is not good enough from the start of the season.
Its a shambles run by a bloke Lerner who has not got a clue.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #199 on: November 28, 2015, 07:27:02 PM »
Let's worry about this season before we start talking about the next 2.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #200 on: November 28, 2015, 07:27:04 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue.

I have to say, I am not very impressed with Tom Fox so far.

It was his decision to not only be stupid enough to hire Tim Sherwood, but to have done so having only his name on the list.

What kind of brainfart was that? Why have a list of one, a man who has managed for, what, half a season?

I think the bloke's time in charge has been an unmitigated disaster.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #201 on: November 28, 2015, 07:27:17 PM »
Expected but it still hurts. Thats that then.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #202 on: November 28, 2015, 07:28:03 PM »
Of course the set up is wrong, how else could we be in this position.
It was pretty obvious that this squad is not good enough from the start of the season.
Its a shambles run by a bloke Lerner who has not got a clue.

The set up may work if we were paying higher wages. I'd still rather a manager who picks his own players though.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #203 on: November 28, 2015, 07:28:49 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue. Neither is our approach to transfers. The question is whether it has happened all too late? Has too much damage been done for it to make a difference? We need to sustain it because even if we do go down we cannot afford to change directions again. It will kill us off completely.

The lack of investment is what's killing us. We need to smash our transfer record in January to stand any chance of staying up. No more lower league rubbish and no untried foreigners. We need Premer League players, and you have to pay the going rate to get them.
Give them relegation clauses and they might just come. It's all about the money.
See QPR and the sort of over priced mercenaries that strategy will deliver.
It is too late to buy ourselves out of trouble.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #204 on: November 28, 2015, 07:31:13 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue. Neither is our approach to transfers. The question is whether it has happened all too late? Has too much damage been done for it to make a difference? We need to sustain it because even if we do go down we cannot afford to change directions again. It will kill us off completely.

The lack of investment is what's killing us. We need to smash our transfer record in January to stand any chance of staying up. No more lower league rubbish and no untried foreigners. We need Premer League players, and you have to pay the going rate to get them.
Give them relegation clauses and they might just come. It's all about the money.
See QPR and the sort of over priced mercenaries that strategy will deliver.
It is too late to buy ourselves out of trouble.

No it isn't. Just because QPR ballsed up doesn't mean every other club will.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #205 on: November 28, 2015, 07:38:31 PM »
Let's worry about this season before we start talking about the next 2.

whats to worry about?

we are down and anyone who thinks we arent is deluded

and as for players coming in during jan, fuck me who are we going to attract?

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« Reply #206 on: November 28, 2015, 07:38:32 PM »
OI hearts on radio that we've only spent £6m net in last 5 years.  That can't be true!?!

It's per season, so 30m net in 5 seasons, and sounds quite plausible to me.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #207 on: November 28, 2015, 07:39:27 PM »
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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #208 on: November 28, 2015, 07:42:50 PM »
The current executive set up at the club isn't the issue. Neither is our approach to transfers. The question is whether it has happened all too late? Has too much damage been done for it to make a difference? We need to sustain it because even if we do go down we cannot afford to change directions again. It will kill us off completely.

The lack of investment is what's killing us. We need to smash our transfer record in January to stand any chance of staying up. No more lower league rubbish and no untried foreigners. We need Premer League players, and you have to pay the going rate to get them.
Give them relegation clauses and they might just come. It's all about the money.

It's not going to happen.

We might have an outside chance of picking up a few decent loan players, but which decent Prem players would seriously hitch their long-term future to us at present?

I'd look at the lad at Wolves. £12 million plus and they might bite. 

Any championship player currently playing for a side with their sights on promotion would probably give us the swerve too.

But Afobe might go for it, providing better placed sides like Norwich or Bournemouth don't go in for him.

Better placed sides than Norwich or Bournemouth. Christ on a bike.

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Re: Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread
« Reply #209 on: November 28, 2015, 07:44:47 PM »
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