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Offline LukeJames

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #345 on: November 03, 2015, 01:39:46 PM »
Just saw the sky pundits laughing at Gabby, its had not to laugh along with them unfortunately.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #346 on: November 03, 2015, 01:43:53 PM »
Footyskillz, the much maligned poster, coming on here, talking more sense than anyone picking the Villa team this season.

Except for saying gabby did ok.


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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #347 on: November 03, 2015, 01:45:00 PM »
Throwing this in there:

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5115327,00.html

Check out the first report from Lee Dixon. Specifically the last bit.. "We thought about the game on the same lines."

I, for one, applaud that if it's true. I think Dixon speaks a lot of sense!

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His English is perfect. There will be no communication problems for him.

During the week, Rémi is very calm and talks to the players in a way they like. He is honest and straight with them. The Lyon players respected him immensely.

But on matchday, during the game, he changes. He is very demanding and animated - as the Lyon players found out and as the Villa players will find out.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #348 on: November 03, 2015, 02:35:15 PM »
Remi's team selection for Sunday is going to  be interesting.

I don't believe Kevin Mc sabotaged last night's team but there were some very strange decisions made in that starting 11 & in the team vs Southampton.

Those calling for Okore to play need to remember he's had little or no game time since last May & Traore is nowhere near a starter.

We are carrying too many players & too many look fucked after 60 minutes.

The season starts again on Sunday & again the week after. We need to get a few results before Xmas & hope we can get player's in Jan to make a difference.

It's not beyond hope,  yet!

I took your final sentiment and thought about it a little.

I still maintain the odds are against us staying up on pure mathematics alone. So I took a little look. Here's what I think, assuming a slight upturn in form, we should realistically be looking at.

November 2015
Aston Villa v Man City   Sun 8 Nov   13:30   - Let's write this one off shall we?
Everton v Aston Villa   Sat 21 Nov   15:00   - a draw
Aston Villa v Watford   Sat 28 Nov   15:00   - A home win is a must

December 2015
Southampton v Aston Villa   Sat 5 Dec   15:00   - A draw if we're lucky but I wouldn't bet on that
Aston Villa v Arsenal   Sun          13 Dec   13:30   - Lose
Newcastle v Aston Villa       Sat 19 Dec   17:30   - Away win
Aston Villa v West Ham   Sat 26 Dec   15:00   - Home draw
Norwich v Aston Villa    Mon 28 Dec   15:00   - Away win.

So, this is quite presumptuous yes....but I have to believe with the premier league experience we have, and the quality, on paper, that Garde will improve us, even a little bit.

So, with that in mind, it would leave us with, at best, 16 points from 19...again, at best. That, at Christmas, is not good.


I'd snap your arm and anything else off for 16 points by that stage.

Get that, and double it by the end of the season and you get 32.

Even that might be enough if this season takes a lower points total than usual to beat the drop, but realistically we'd need another 5/ 6 points.

The way this team are playing at present, we'd be doing well to get a points total of 20+

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #349 on: November 03, 2015, 02:44:58 PM »
I really wanted this season not to be playing "Guess the best and worst points"  :(

( I have a spreadsheet which includes all the teams in the relegation mini-league - its been enhanced every season.)

I was talking to my work West Ham mate and he said that when they went down, they had to sell their best players... so we have already done that  ;)

My Liverpool mate said he believes that we'll be safe, somehow. Can the league give sympathy points?

« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 02:53:37 PM by postal »

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #350 on: November 03, 2015, 04:07:20 PM »
For whaty it's worth, I hope Remi gives this line up a try or, something close:

                                                                               Guzan

                                                  Richards                 Crespo            Okore      Amavi

                                                   Traore                  Sanchez          Veretout   Gueye

                                                                                 Gil

                                                                                   Ayew

Subs: Hutton, Grealish, Kozak, Sinclair, Bunn


We can all tinker around with a player here or there but, I honestly think something approaching the above would give all us long suffering supporters a lift. In view of his pace, would like to see Richards at RB and, with Traore's pace as well at least we could try something a little different instead of the garbage we've had so far.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #351 on: November 03, 2015, 04:26:39 PM »
I keep seeing people complimenting Gestede's performance last night, from anonymous bloggers all the way up to Gary Neville on Sky. I have no idea what they saw. The guy just lurched about chaotically as usual, and even worse his heading (the only reason for picking him) was terrible - his awful flick-ons found no Villa players, his shots were terrible, he never kept the ball when it came to him, he's too slow to press effectively and missed a really good chance to make it 2-2. If he's missing that chance, and not heading the ball to team-mates or holding it up, then what's the point of him being in the team?

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #352 on: November 03, 2015, 04:40:47 PM »
I keep seeing people complimenting Gestede's performance last night, from anonymous bloggers all the way up to Gary Neville on Sky. I have no idea what they saw. The guy just lurched about chaotically as usual, and even worse his heading (the only reason for picking him) was terrible - his awful flick-ons found no Villa players, his shots were terrible, he never kept the ball when it came to him, he's too slow to press effectively and missed a really good chance to make it 2-2. If he's missing that chance, and not heading the ball to team-mates or holding it up, then what's the point of him being in the team?
I  thought Rudi had a very positive effect on the team 2nd half. Whatever people think of him he is a handful. That causes mistakes and mistakes lead to goals. Gil also changed things for the better but I don't think the coaches believe he can do it over 90 mins. Monsieur Garde can address these things as from what I've read he is akin to O'Neill when it comes to getting the best out of players.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #353 on: November 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM »
I think it was Gil who led to the team looking better, not Gestede. I thought Spurs handled him with laughable ease for the most part.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #354 on: November 03, 2015, 04:56:49 PM »
I think it was Gil who led to the team looking better, not Gestede. I thought Spurs handled him with laughable ease for the most part.

Laughable ease? I doubt they were laughing when he managed to outjump Lloris to win the ball with his head. Or when Vertonghen had to make a last-ditch challenge to block his goalbound shot. As for his flicks not reaching Villa players, I would be more inclined to attribute that no no Villa player anticipating the flick than expecting Gestede's ability in the air.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #355 on: November 03, 2015, 04:57:41 PM »
I think it was Gil who led to the team looking better, not Gestede. I thought Spurs handled him with laughable ease for the most part.

There was a post match interview with one of their central defenders. He didn't have a hair out of place, no sweat, he looked like he was about to start the game not just finished one.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #356 on: November 03, 2015, 05:00:53 PM »
You'll notice both of those happened after Gil came on and there was a bit more space - indeed, Vertonghen's block was after Gil had won the ball and made the chance.

On the headed chance - yes he outjumped Lloris, but he also managed to nod the thing wide when, from his position, it would be easier to score. The goal was huge and he missed. As for the lack of anticipation, well, we'll just have to disagree, but for me it just looked like he was launching himself at the ball and hoping to deflect it somewhere vaguely useful. No, if he's really our best bet up front then we're certainties for relegation, because he's utterly, obviously inadequate.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #357 on: November 03, 2015, 05:03:51 PM »
His 'goal-bound' shot was missing by miles.

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #358 on: November 03, 2015, 05:32:57 PM »
Guzan

Richards Okore Clark Amavi

              Sanchez

     Veretout.          Gana

                 Gil
   
        Adama      Ayew.

I'd go with this on Sunday.

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Re: Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread
« Reply #359 on: November 03, 2015, 05:34:12 PM »
Just a little comment about flick ons. The good Strikers actually direct their flick ons, the bad ones let the ball bounce off their heads and put it down to no one ever reading it properly. You can't just head the ball anywhere and expect your co-striker or runners to get on the end of it, you have to put the ball in to certain zones if you can that you know your runners have been told to look out for or gamble on.

 


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