Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[conman]

I think that he was saying he wanted players to be closing down a lot quicker which comes back to a lack of application.

and why do the players take no notice of what he says

Because he's not a good manager

correct

[django]

I think some of  our support has Stockholm syndrome when it comes to Garde.

[passport1]

I'm not too bothered whether he is ranting or sitting silently. Saunders never ranted but the players new exactly what was expected of them.  That is why he is a poor manager the players clearly do not know  what he wants of them,which is a basic requirement.

[old man villa fan]

People seem to like to compare managers or players to demonstrate a point but very rarely take into account the differing circumstances that make the comparison almost invalid. Trouble is, the more people say it, the more they and others believe it.

I have even seen Garde being compared with McNeill. Ignoring the almost 30 years of footballing difference between them, you only have to compare the playing squads against the competition to see the unlevel playing field.  Bringing it up to date and the so called new manager bounce. As others have commented, Benteke et al. have no comparison in the current squad. Even more up to date, the lack of options Garde has now compared with Sherwood at the beginning of the season. Although a hot or cold player, Sanchez is badly missed as was Ayew when he was suspended. Add in the rapidly declining confidence and you see comparisons are not being made on the same basis.

I've said it before that the alternative always seems better than the current when things are not going well. I cannot be sure what they saw in Garde to appoint him and knew little of him but having read up on him, it seemed as though he was a good fit to rebuild the squad from the bottom based on his experience. I still believe so and hope that, if that was the reason, he is given the chance to bring Villa back to modern day football.

[Fred]

I think for one reason or another we will need a new manager for the fight to get back up (oh for a sir Graham Mk2). Tom Fox too will have to go as he appointed Garde and Sherwood.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

I will be happy if Garde stays as I think he could do a good job of rebuilding the club from the bottom up if given the time and resources. However, it won't be the end of my world if he goes

[Steve67]

Do we need a change to build some momentum and to give hope going in to the Championship?

[supertom]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

[supertom]

Do we need a change to build some momentum and to give hope going in to the Championship?

We definitely need a change but I think we're beyond building momentum now. I can't see us, regardless of Remi going now or in May (the latter is pretty much a given) picking up many points. Remi will leave, I'd personally let him go now and let a caretaker see us through the last 8 games. We need to be resigned to the inevitable now and the last 8 games should be played without pressure and perhaps the shackles off. Maybe Sid and Brian in unison for the last 8 games.

[ez]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

[supertom]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

They are able to though. And you can't excuse the awful team selections and tactical deficiencies. The squad isn't very good, but it shouldn't be as piss awful as it has been, and we're not the 20th worst squad in the Premier League on paper. We're just the most feckless, woefully run and managed side in the top flight.
Every manager at every club across the world has to take responsibility for that teams results. That's what you sign up for when you take up the job. Sometimes circumstances are tough. Sometimes you get a raw deal, but you still have to get the best out of what you have. I don't think Remi is getting that. Not even close. Would we stay up if this lot were playing to their best? Maybe not, but at the very least we should be going down fighting.
Yes this is 90% Randy's fault for being a feck brained cretin, but Remi has been atrocious. All excuses aside he's been atrocious.

[malckennedy]

Yesterday's performance was a whole lot better than of late, mainly because the likes of Bacuna and Agbonlahor were not playing. Whilst I wouldn't claim that we were not deservedly beaten it is disingenuous of the BBC and others to simply state that "Villa only mustered 2 shots on target" while deliberately failing to point out that 3 others (Ayew, Gestede and Lescott) hit the frame of the goal. This was lazy, easy reporting on the basis that nobody will complain if I just print the same old shit regardless of the performance. Unfortunately many of our fans do the same.

This was an improved performance, albeit with some familiar errors, and it is not fair to pretend otherwise.

[Dave]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

Only if you accept that a manager cannot have any impact on a player's performance.

I don't have any strong feelings either for or against him remaining our manager next season, but if we were to accept that Garde is blameless for the players being hopeless and that there is nothing that he is able to do to improve them, then what was the point in getting rid of the last guy?

[itbrvilla]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

Only if you accept that a manager cannot have any impact on a player's performance.

I don't have any strong feelings either for or against him remaining our manager next season, but if we were to accept that Garde is blameless for the players being hopeless and that there is nothing that he is able to do to improve them, then what was the point in getting rid of the last guy?

Spot on.

[Steve67]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

Only if you accept that a manager cannot have any impact on a player's performance.

I don't have any strong feelings either for or against him remaining our manager next season, but if we were to accept that Garde is blameless for the players being hopeless and that there is nothing that he is able to do to improve them, then what was the point in getting rid of the last guy?

Spot on.

It's just another incredibly bad decision in the sea of bad decisions. I'm not saying that we should stuck with Tim, I'm saying  that we seem to have got it wrong twice! Given a choice, I think I'd have another go at getting it right, especially with slightly more football brained people on the board now. Oh, and I'd be inclined to do it now. Sorry Remi.