Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[oswald funkletrumpet]

i still find it hard to understand how mcneill is described as one of our worst ever managers whose was bought in early in the season, not his players and wasnt given the opportunity to strengthen the squad

garde has a bigger squad and coaches galore, fan goodwill and he still has a worse record - 2 wins in half a season, and an appalling gd and people think give him a full season

bizarrely i really struggle with the reasoning behind this

[MarkM]

i still find it hard to understand how mcneill is described as one of our worst ever managers whose was bought in early in the season, not his players and wasnt given the opportunity to strengthen the squad

garde has a bigger squad and coaches galore, fan goodwill and he still has a worse record - 2 wins in half a season, and an appalling gd and people think give him a full season

bizarrely i really struggle with the reasoning behind this

Me too, I think he has been a bit of a disaster

[oswald funkletrumpet]

i still find it hard to understand how mcneill is described as one of our worst ever managers whose was bought in early in the season, not his players and wasnt given the opportunity to strengthen the squad

garde has a bigger squad and coaches galore, fan goodwill and he still has a worse record - 2 wins in half a season, and an appalling gd and people think give him a full season

bizarrely i really struggle with the reasoning behind this

Me too, I think he has been a bit of a disaster

i do quite like the bloke, just not as manager of our club

[brian green]

I suggest respectfully that you better get used it because I am sure an axis of club power forged by the ex governor if the Bank of England and the ex chairman of the FA will demand a manager for the club of intelligence, articulation and integrity.  Whether or not that is Remi Garde is down to Remi Garde but you can bet your mortgage that King and Bernstein will never tolerate a media luvvie, a geezer or a head banger.  The manager they will demand will be either Remi Garde or somebody very much in the same mould.

[Ian.]

I suggest respectfully that you better get used it because I am sure an axis of club power forged by the ex governor if the Bank of England and the ex chairman of the FA will demand a manager for the club of intelligence, articulation and integrity.  Whether or not that is Remi Garde is down to Remi Garde but you can bet your mortgage that King and Bernstein will never tolerate a media luvvie, a geezer or a head banger.  The manager they will demand will be either Remi Garde or somebody very much in the same mould.

I hope your right on that one Brian.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I suggest respectfully that you better get used it because I am sure an axis of club power forged by the ex governor if the Bank of England and the ex chairman of the FA will demand a manager for the club of intelligence, articulation and integrity.  Whether or not that is Remi Garde is down to Remi Garde but you can bet your mortgage that King and Bernstein will never tolerate a media luvvie, a geezer or a head banger.  The manager they will demand will be either Remi Garde or somebody very much in the same mould.

Hope you're right. Although Bernstein did appoint Keegan to Man City

[KevinGage]

I'd like to see Garde get next season.

How do you judge a manager, in the context of that? The football equivalent of Berlin in April 1945 and say with a straight face that 2 in 18 and it's a simple as that?

Not sure that scans. Allthepies at Sunderland inherited a team not drastically superior talent-wise to our mob.

They had zero wins on the board when he took over in October yet somehow had four by early January. Would he, Pearson or any of the other legion of doom been good long-term options for us?  Probably not. But would they have been more likely to get a tune out of the current side?  I'd say they would.

What Garde faced wasn't Berlin in 1945 when the gig was to all intents and purposes up, but Stalingrad in 1942, pre-Kessel with the winter setting in. Odds against, but still a reasonable chance. I don't think the Sixth Army would have dragged it out for so long if Paulus had fired his men up on the eve of Operation Uranus by saying 'You're all shitheads, I don't rate you and I am better than this."

[DaveD]

I'd like to see Garde get next season.

How do you judge a manager, in the context of that? The football equivalent of Berlin in April 1945 and say with a straight face that 2 in 18 and it's a simple as that?

Not sure that scans. Allthepies at Sunderland inherited a team not drastically superior talent-wise to our mob.

They had zero wins on the board when he took over in October yet somehow had four by early January. Would he, Pearson or any of the other legion of doom been good long-term options for us?  Probably not. But would they have been more likely to get a tune out of the current side?  I'd say they would.

What Garde faced wasn't Berlin in 1945 when the gig was to all intents and purposes up, but Stalingrad in 1943, pre-Kessel. Odds against, but still a reasonable chance. I don't think the Sixth Army would have dragged it out for so long if Paulus had fired his men up on the eve of Operation Uranus by saying 'You're all shitheads, I don't rate you and I am better than this."

I disagree, I think our squad is much poorer than Sunderland's. Some of the younger ones have the ability to make it as PL players but they're not at that standard *consistently* yet. Most of them are either has beens or never wases. And more importantly, we do not possess *one* player with the X Factor, who the oppo think "we can't let him do his thing".

[Steve67]

Garde has been dealt a poor hand but he hasn't been great has he?  I'm really on the fence whether I want him to continue. I know the club will probably get it wrong again if they get rid of him, but that shouldn't be my reason for keeping him either. He seems calm, professional, but you don't slag your players off in public, you do it behind closed doors, even if we like him for doing it. He hasn't improved us at all. Yet I quite like the man.

DaveD, Traore, Gil and Grealish, one might argue, all have the x factor. But for reasons unknown are not showing it. I appreciate that Traore is injured at the moment.

[KevinGage]

Sunderland were stinking out the league earlier this season. They were even lower than us for most of the opening part of the campaign and weren't too different personnel-wise to the team we smashed 4-1 up at their place a few months previous.

Admittedly we're veering into tallest dwarf territory; we are talking about two pretty dreadful football sides.

But I don't think they were particularly better than us talent-wise. Then, or now.

[kippaxvilla2]

I like Remi and unfortunately because of the law that players never get sacked felt he had to go after the Everton game but nonetheless I like what he says so I still want him to succeed.

With regard to the championship am I right in thinking that no manager from outside the British Isles has got a team promoted since its current guise formation in 2004?

[Stirchley Villain]

I like Remi and unfortunately because of the law that players never get sacked felt he had to go after the Everton game but nonetheless I like what he says so I still want him to succeed.

With regard to the championship am I right in thinking that no manager from outside the British Isles has got a team promoted since its current guise formation in 2004?

The Watford Spaniard? I might be wrong... Di Matteo with Albion?

[kippaxvilla2]

Yes I knew I was wrong Watford yes.  Wasn't it Mowbray that got Albion up?

[Stirchley Villain]

Yes I knew I was wrong Watford yes.  Wasn't it Mowbray that got Albion up?

I thought it was Di Matteo. I'm happy to be corrected.

[kippaxvilla2]

You're right it was Di Matteo.  Well that's my assertions wrong.  Not many though is it?  The bloke from Middlesbrough has apparently walked out after their last game.