Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[LeeB]

When we have had a good run in my time, the likes of Taylor, Atkinson, Little have had the chance to rebuild. What has Remi had the chance to do? I can't think of a manager who has had his hands tied so much to be honest.

Two of those took over during the summer, when they had three months to bring in the players they wanted. The third took over mid-season and we came closer to going down than we have since 1987 before he had the chance the rebuild.

Little also was able to bring in  Gary Charles, Tommy Johnson, Ian Taylor and Alan Wright pretty much straight away.

[django]

I believe he'll want to stay at Villa to the end of the season, and even wants to stay in charge for the foreseeable future, rebuilding the squad. But I also think he'll walk the very minute he's certain he won't be given the financial/moral support to do so. Some interesting insights into the inner workings of Villa might be emerging at that point.

If he's sacked, he's probably too honorable to ignore a non-disclosure agreement. I don't believe money comes into it.

He may be the most honourable man ever to have walked the earth but considering pretty much none of us had ever even heard of him 6 months ago, I'll wait and see before presuming he'll turn his nose up at having his contract paid up (or whatever the incentive usually is for our managers to clam up.)

Why should he?

I'm not saying he will or that he should. I don't think he will, I think he'll do what our other managers have done and think of himself and his family rather than the curiosities of a fanbase of a club he's only been at for 5'mins.

[mr woo]

When we have had a good run in my time, the likes of Taylor, Atkinson, Little have had the chance to rebuild. What has Remi had the chance to do? I can't think of a manager who has had his hands tied so much to be honest.

Two of those took over during the summer, when they had three months to bring in the players they wanted. The third took over mid-season and we came closer to going down than we have since 1987 before he had the chance the rebuild.

Quite right.

If you really want to draw similarities to a manager who took over in a near identical situation, you only have to go back to 1986.

An inexperienced manager had poorly rebuilt a squad, using up all available funds.

Team started season poorly and sat at or near bottom of the league. Inexperienced manager subsequently taken outside to admire the flora and fauna of the chairman's garden.

New manager takes over.

Despite hype, new manager doesn't make a jot of difference,  team get relegated.



Now, what I really don't understand is this.

The 1986/7 manager is a comical figure widely regarded as one of the worst in Villas history, yet the current version is a poor put-upon character who's been dealt a bad hand and deserves another chance to put things right.


Personally,  I think the world's gone a bit soft. I prefer the 1980's way of dealing with people who have proved incapable of carrying out their duties to the required standard.

[Stirchley Villain]

Personally,  I think the world's gone a bit soft. I prefer the 1980's way of dealing with people who have proved incapable of carrying out their duties to the required standard.

Maybe we could try the North Korean way of dealing with people who have proved incapable of carrying out their duties to the required standard?

[mr woo]

Why?  Do they have nice gardens too?

[Ian.]

It's a good job we never sacked Taylor then.

[mr woo]

We did the second time round.


I don't recall any reason to do so in his first stay. If you mean the low finish in our season after promotion, he had more than enough credit in the bank.

[Rigadon]

I believe he'll want to stay at Villa to the end of the season, and even wants to stay in charge for the foreseeable future, rebuilding the squad. But I also think he'll walk the very minute he's certain he won't be given the financial/moral support to do so. Some interesting insights into the inner workings of Villa might be emerging at that point.

If he's sacked, he's probably too honorable to ignore a non-disclosure agreement. I don't believe money comes into it.

He may be the most honourable man ever to have walked the earth but considering pretty much none of us had ever even heard of him 6 months ago...

Really?

Well I'm basing this on my own experience, and that of the fans I speak to, and the response on the various Villa forums when he was first mooted/appointed and not that many people were familiar with him (or maybe just me). Probably because the French league is a bit niche for a lot of people.

It isn't just you. 

[Rigadon]

I'm not a massive fan of these press conferences anyway. We didn't have them years ago, we don't need them now, apart from Sky.

Neither am I.  They are largely pointless, and didn't exist until we had 24 hour rolling 'news'.  He didn't walk out anyway, some journo asked him the same question (he'd already answered it) and the Scots guy shut it down. 

[Chris Jameson]

To be honest I only realised Garde had played for Arsenal after he was appointed manager and had no idea he had gone into management as like many I don't follow French football. Now he's here though I'd like him to be given a proper chance to sort the sorry mess out.

[SamTheMouse]

I have the same rule for every manager: don't make a definitive judgment until he's had a summer to build his own squad.

[tomd2103]

The most important question which arises from this incident is why the PO felt it necessary to terminate the session.

The more cynical among us will think the board are running scared that Garde is on the verge of spilling the beans on the extent of their wretched incompetence.

I think we can all have a good guess about that.

[berneboy]

To be honest I only realised Garde had played for Arsenal after he was appointed manager and had no idea he had gone into management as like many I don't follow French football. Now he's here though I'd like him to be given a proper chance to sort the sorry mess out.

Me too. I feel confident he'll do well as a manager (as he appears to have done previously in France) but I suspect it'll be somewhere else.

[Villa in Denmark]

I doubt very much he'll be sacked, unless there's a clause we can get rid on the cheap if he takes us down.

Just like we didn't pay to dispense with the services of Houllier, McLeish, Lambert or Sherwood.

[Villa in Denmark]

Players that are clearly not good enough to play at this level will look to make excuses for this, rather than get thrown off the gravy train.
This piece is the first example of this, expect a flood of sympathetic pieces from their friends in the press if and when Remi departs.
A gaggle of fuckwits, the lot them.

I'm not sure gaggle is the correct collective noun for fuckwits.

A dribble or maybe a stain of fuckwits?