Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Duncan Shaw]

Sorry I forgot about Bacuna, easily done when I was thinking of footballers, I think he will move on for his own sake, his career at Villa is over and I think he knows it, whatever level we would be playing at, go for a cheap fee to Holland or Belgium.

But why would he?  He's got 3 or 4 years left (not sure how long was unbelievably given to him) on far more money than he'll get on the continent.  We've seen what he's like, so where would his motivation be to agree to moving on.  The only way we are going to get rid of these cancers is to cut them out by paying them off I'm afraid and I can't see the board having the appetite to so that, more, throwing the dice on yet another fall guy to "try" and get the best out of them.

i said it walking out of Wenbley after the cup final and I mean it even more now, I would be happy to never see ANY of them in a Villa shirt again.  I really would like Remi to get the chance to properly rebuild this shitcake, but I just cannot see how the board supporting him to do that.

It's bloody depressing!

[olaftab]

Why should they care if a "Dubai" trip was cancelled? After all that is what life is all about for a modern footballer. A chance to meet their other equally failing mates, a few selfies loads of gratuitous  bantz and free vend "booze and birds". They really couldn't give a fuck about us....

[andyh]

Accepting that Garde inherited a load of dross, one constant is that with four managers I have regularly watched professional footballers that are incapable of making space, making themselves available for a pass, helping a team mate in trouble. We constantly see a player getting crowded and losing possession because there's nobody available. They stroll around watching as if it's not their job. Even if they are piss poor, this is a basic tactic and it is still happening.

I absolutely agree with this, the lack of movement is shocking.
I appreciate a lot of this comes from confidence, but we 'should' have been fairly confident going into Sunday's game, right?
Add to this the total lack of forward movement and support by our midfielders.
I am sick to death of seeing the ball go forward and watching our forwards struggle to hold onto it whilst the midfielders amble forward, if at all.
When was the last time we saw Gana, Westwood or Veretoute make a breaking run into the box to get in front of our forward line?
I watched Gana and Westwood stroll through that game on Sunday with absolutely no intent on supporting the forwards.
And surely, some of this is instruction, guidance or tactics from the manager.

Oh for an Ian Taylor right now.

[Mister E]

It would not have surprised me in the least if a football betting scandal like the Grobbelar case was exposed in the media and Villa player's were implicated.  I know absolutely that there is not one shred or vestige of evidence for such a fiction, BUT, my mind keeps coming back to trying to rationalise the endless stream of self destruction by our team this season.

What? - like, can Villa be relegated with the worst points tally ever (well, for the EPL, at least)? or the worst win ratio?
Sounds pretty reasonable to me, prima facie.

[ROBBO]

It just shows the level of incompetence at the club they just don't learn from their mistakes, after seeing what Nzogbia has done to the club they then offer five year contracts to Gabby and Bacuna two very limited footballers. I make that offer to Messi  but those two what were they thinking.

[Ron Manager]

After yesterday I do wonder what squad and team he will select for the balance of the season. He has to be at his wits end and some players might just disappear. Whether he has plans on staying or leaving he has really nothing to lose by cutting ties with players that have completely let him down. Nobody saw yesterday coming and yet even after a few good weeks we folded like a cheap tent. It will be interesting to see his next move.

"He has to be at his wits end" is probably spot on. He must have gone home had a long think and failed to come up with a single answer. Although no doubt he is on good money he has a board and owner who have not shown the slightest inclination of backing him.He has a squad who do not have the skills to compete at the top level. There are members of that squad he would dearly love to see leave but that is not possible as it would cost the owner money. If I was in his position I would tender my resignation and have a break from football. This  job is not to big for him but the people who employed him are.

[sid1964]

The problem is that as soon as a Gabby or a Bacuna for example has an half decent game, fans start saying that they are now back on form, and are the answer to our problems etc...

Gabby for example, scores a goal against Norwich and suddenly the crowd think he is the equivalent of Barcelona's Messi!, and they start singing that stupid song about him.

Sunday was embarrassing, you can pick out any of Liverpools goals as an example of our "players" not doing there job to a half decent standard, but for me the 6th goal from the corner summed up Villa for the last 5 seasons - they could not care less

I suppose on the Villa website, the usual dross will be spouted by the players such as "we are in this together" "we will fight until the end" "we are giving everything to try and get us out of this mess" - what an absolute load of bollocks, sorry they could not careless each and every one of them is probably praying for the end of the season, so as they can go and go on there hols, and then try and get a move away!

For me we need to shift the lot of the 25 "man" squad I would keep only Veretout, Ayew, Ghana,Amavi, Grealish, Bunn (2nd choice Keeper) , and maybe Gill (although these are the players that will be gone in the Summer)

We need a massive rebuilding of our club this summer, Garde or whoever is in charge, needs to show no mercy, and get rid of players ASAP.

I have heard sports phone ins where the fans are saying that it is the players that were brought in the Summer that are the problem, NO it is not, it is the ones that have been here for a few years that are the problem.

The lap of appreciation should be interesting at the end of the season (I hope that the stadium is totally empty, when they are walking around, mind you most of them have been walking around for most of the season.

At the top Fox and company need to be removed from there positions and someone with a bit of Football knowledge needs to brought in, if it is true that Fox is on a Million pounds a year, I should imagine that the queue for his job will be quite long

Rant over!

[CT]

Short term. I'd really like Remi to play the kids, Under 21's, whatever.

Drop all the ones with the attitudes who think they don't even have to try and try those youngsters - for the rest of the season.

We're down anyway - the crowd would be fully behind them no matter what, because hopefully, they'd at least show some fight for the cause.

I just hope they haven't been around the likes of Gabby, Richards, Lescott etc long enough to think they can be like that too.

[aj2k77]

1 Bournemouth 3060.6
2 Tottenham 3003.8
3 West Brom 2917.5
4 Liverpool 2910.2
5 Man Utd 2903
6 West Ham 2881.9
7 Leicester City 2874.3
8 Arsenal 2871.5
9 Southampton 2863.6
10 Crystal Palace 2860.6
11 Watford 2859.7
12 Sunderland 2858.8
13 Newcastle 2854.5
14 Everton 2837.9
15 Norwich City 2812.9
16 Swansea City 2812.8
17 Chelsea 2802.7
18 Man City 2795.5
19 Stoke City 2789.2
20 Aston Villa 2750.8


Still rock bottom of distance covered by players this season.

[Dante Lavelli]

Interesting data - do they show it on a match by match basis, to see whether there has been an improvement in the last 6-weeks.

I'm surprised WBA are so high up the list.

[aj2k77]

Interesting data - do they show it on a match by match basis, to see whether there has been an improvement in the last 6-weeks.

I'm surprised WBA are so high up the list.

If you signed up to opta you could probably get match by match stats, this is just taken from sky sports. We have conceded the most goals in the last 10 minutes and scored the least too.

[Jimbo]

1 Bournemouth 3060.6
2 Tottenham 3003.8
3 West Brom 2917.5
4 Liverpool 2910.2
5 Man Utd 2903
6 West Ham 2881.9
7 Leicester City 2874.3
8 Arsenal 2871.5
9 Southampton 2863.6
10 Crystal Palace 2860.6
11 Watford 2859.7
12 Sunderland 2858.8
13 Newcastle 2854.5
14 Everton 2837.9
15 Norwich City 2812.9
16 Swansea City 2812.8
17 Chelsea 2802.7
18 Man City 2795.5
19 Stoke City 2789.2
20 Aston Villa 2750.8


Still rock bottom of distance covered by players this season.

At almost every level of the club, we just can't be arsed.

[Boz]

Accepting that Garde inherited a load of dross, one constant is that with four managers I have regularly watched professional footballers that are incapable of making space, making themselves available for a pass, helping a team mate in trouble. We constantly see a player getting crowded and losing possession because there's nobody available. They stroll around watching as if it's not their job. Even if they are piss poor, this is a basic tactic and it is still happening.

I absolutely agree with this, the lack of movement is shocking.
I appreciate a lot of this comes from confidence, but we 'should' have been fairly confident going into Sunday's game, right?
Add to this the total lack of forward movement and support by our midfielders.
I am sick to death of seeing the ball go forward and watching our forwards struggle to hold onto it whilst the midfielders amble forward, if at all.
When was the last time we saw Gana, Westwood or Veretoute make a breaking run into the box to get in front of our forward line?
I watched Gana and Westwood stroll through that game on Sunday with absolutely no intent on supporting the forwards.
And surely, some of this is instruction, guidance or tactics from the manager.

Oh for an Ian Taylor right now.

Or deliberately not playing to the manager's instructions. It looks more like the players are trying to force the manager out.

[john e]

so now the dust has settled and we have all reflected on the shambolic display on sunday

for the first time ever on this site, I'm going to say

 it actually was a 'new Low' for the club certainly in the recent past

[django]

1 Bournemouth 3060.6
2 Tottenham 3003.8
3 West Brom 2917.5
4 Liverpool 2910.2
5 Man Utd 2903
6 West Ham 2881.9
7 Leicester City 2874.3
8 Arsenal 2871.5
9 Southampton 2863.6
10 Crystal Palace 2860.6
11 Watford 2859.7
12 Sunderland 2858.8
13 Newcastle 2854.5
14 Everton 2837.9
15 Norwich City 2812.9
16 Swansea City 2812.8
17 Chelsea 2802.7
18 Man City 2795.5
19 Stoke City 2789.2
20 Aston Villa 2750.8


Still rock bottom of distance covered by players this season.

Shocking considering we won't have had as much of the ball as most of the other teams in the bottom half of that list. Our lack of closing down in the opening stages on sunday as highlighted on match of the day was even worse than i'd realised at the time. Even before the first goal had gone in it was like we couldn't be arsed.