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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 941208 times)

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4410 on: February 10, 2016, 12:06:18 AM »
“[Objectives and whether or not he stays should they be relegated] will be rediscussed once the next season begins its preparation. That means at the end of the campaign. I am ready to stay at this club if I am given the means required for promotion. Aston Villa is a prestigious club in England on the exterior. But inside, there are lots of things that need to be done…”


There is absolutely no excuse for not backing him to get promotion next year. We'll get massive parachute payments and will have the cash we so successfully avoided spending last month.

If these fucking charlatans running us have any clue, they'll realise that the obvious way back quickly is to firmly support a good manager. We've got the good manager, now they have got to back him.

Why are they suddenly going to get smarter one league below?

There is now, on the face of it at least, a proper governance structure in place that has evolved over the course of this season. Of course, the map is not the territory but I think Garde will be our indicator of whether they are serious. If he stays that is because they have convinced him of their ambitions.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4411 on: February 10, 2016, 12:15:30 AM »
"I am ready to stay at this club if I am given the means required for promotion."

Ergo, Remi will be off because there is no conceivable way our owners will have either the courage or the knowledge to back him. Their track record is horrendous and relegation will send them even further into the vault.

As I have said before, Garde's departure could be the start of yet another period of churn and mayhem which could just send us even further downwards. Frightening, truly.


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4412 on: February 10, 2016, 12:19:14 AM »
"Don't clip my wings, because if you do you are wasting money, wasting your time and you will give yourself a heart attack." Graham Taylor, 1987.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4413 on: February 10, 2016, 04:44:58 AM »
His comments in here too: http://thesun.uk/6019BwUIV

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4414 on: February 10, 2016, 05:03:40 AM »
His comments in here too: [link to rag removed by me]
I don't think I have ever seen a link to that rag on here before.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4415 on: February 10, 2016, 05:15:50 AM »
there's a first time for everything under the sun

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4416 on: February 10, 2016, 05:50:54 AM »
The scary part is the "American owner has lost 300 million".
God almighty where has that gone, because  as a club we are no where near the level of 300 million investment, towards showing improvement as to where it matters on the pitch.
It is when you see figures like that, that you think that this club regardless of the structure in place now, argument to have whether they are the right people, but someone has to stop the mad American from making any more vital decisions, he really is totally clueless.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4417 on: February 10, 2016, 07:45:12 AM »
You can soon get through £300 million with the help of Messrs O'Neill, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Beye, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and all the black holes the club has shovelled money into post Ellis. Actually when you survey the landscape of our recent past I am surprised that it is not more.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4418 on: February 10, 2016, 08:39:42 AM »
“[Objectives and whether or not he stays should they be relegated] will be rediscussed once the next season begins its preparation. That means at the end of the campaign. I am ready to stay at this club if I am given the means required for promotion. Aston Villa is a prestigious club in England on the exterior. But inside, there are lots of things that need to be done…”


There is absolutely no excuse for not backing him to get promotion next year. We'll get massive parachute payments and will have the cash we so successfully avoided spending last month.

If these fucking charlatans running us have any clue, they'll realise that the obvious way back quickly is to firmly support a good manager. We've got the good manager, now they have got to back him.

Why are they suddenly going to get smarter one league below?

That's it, in a nutshell. If anything, it's easier to preside over a club that keeps losing than one that keeps winning. We'll have to magically turn into a winning club to come straight back up. Garde's going to need all the backing in the world to achieve that.

Offline Adam Gittins

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4419 on: February 10, 2016, 09:38:54 AM »
Worth rehashing this FourFourTwo article that was floating around as he took the job. Specifically this paragraph:

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One thing that may worry or give confidence to Villa's top brass is Garde’s stubbornness to protect his project. The Frenchman isn't one to sit back and let those above him walk all over his hard work. Last January, when Napoli made a €13 million bid for Garde’s captain Gonalons, the coach – keen to stress the importance of his midfield protector – gave the board an ultimatum: he was willing to quit there and then if his player was sold.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4420 on: February 10, 2016, 10:39:52 AM »
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“We might be in the Championship next season. The American owner has lost £300m. He wants to build something different.

That's the bit that got me, what does he want to build? he's already built a sinking ship..What's the next horror?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4421 on: February 10, 2016, 10:49:51 AM »
A submarine.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4422 on: February 10, 2016, 11:01:47 AM »
A submarine.

Well if that's the case we will very soon be......20,000 leagues under the sea!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4423 on: February 10, 2016, 11:04:35 AM »
“[Objectives and whether or not he stays should they be relegated] will be rediscussed once the next season begins its preparation. That means at the end of the campaign. I am ready to stay at this club if I am given the means required for promotion. Aston Villa is a prestigious club in England on the exterior. But inside, there are lots of things that need to be done…”


There is absolutely no excuse for not backing him to get promotion next year. We'll get massive parachute payments and will have the cash we so successfully avoided spending last month.

If these fucking charlatans running us have any clue, they'll realise that the obvious way back quickly is to firmly support a good manager. We've got the good manager, now they have got to back him.

Why are they suddenly going to get smarter one league below?

That's it, in a nutshell. If anything, it's easier to preside over a club that keeps losing than one that keeps winning. We'll have to magically turn into a winning club to come straight back up. Garde's going to need all the backing in the world to achieve that.

It's missing the point though that we appointed someone in Hollis with the main requisite being that he restructure the club.  We don't need the people who've made mistakes in the past to get smarter, we need the ones who've come in to be better than who've they replaced.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4424 on: February 10, 2016, 01:59:56 PM »
What gets me is that financial planning for a football club is not difficult. It is complex for sure with staff that are in different stages of a contract, on vastly differing remuneration, residual values etc.

The income side is not difficult to predict as the various components do not vary dramatically from year to year. Even the relegation falling off a cliff impact is easy to predict.

You are then looking at how much of that income you spend and how much you save for a rainy day, alternatively how much you invest. Then it is a matter of spreading the expenditure over essentials and nice to have's. As a simple comparison look at fantasy football where you start with so much money and you decide where you spend your money. Three top strikers are going to blow the budget and you will be left with Guzan in goal and Richardson at left back. Shift N'Zogbia off the payroll and you have enough for two players etc. etc.

As I said not difficult but complex. Unless you run the 'what if's' scenarios when agreeing players contracts, you are going to mess up the finances big time and that is, I believe, how Lerner has got the club into a mess. Financial planning for 5 years ahead is essential so that you can monitor the impact of ups and downs and adjust accordingly.

 


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