Randy Lerner

[dave.woodhall]

Who are you to argue, indeed.

[saunders_heroes]

It's entirely possible that, in succession, we've had two really shit owners. One a spiteful, self-obsessed profiteer, and the other a detached, aloof, complacent, negligent fool. 

True. One of them has humiliated us beyond belief and turned us into a national laughing stock though.

[saunders_heroes]

Who are you to argue, indeed.

Get you!

[dave.woodhall]

It's entirely possible that, in succession, we've had two really shit owners. One a spiteful, self-obsessed profiteer, and the other a detached, aloof, complacent, negligent fool. 

I'd say it's entirely probable, and both deserve criticism for it.

[Jimbo]

It's entirely possible that, in succession, we've had two really shit owners. One a spiteful, self-obsessed profiteer, and the other a detached, aloof, complacent, negligent fool. 

True. One of them has humiliated us beyond belief and turned us into a national laughing stock though.

He did. And the other one was very lucky.

[croatian]

It's entirely possible that, in succession, we've had two really shit owners. One a spiteful, self-obsessed profiteer, and the other a detached, aloof, complacent, negligent fool. 

True. One of them has humiliated us beyond belief and turned us into a national laughing stock though.

Try international, or global even.
Take your point tho'

[Ad@m]

It's entirely possible that, in succession, we've had two really shit owners. One a spiteful, self-obsessed profiteer, and the other a detached, aloof, complacent, negligent fool. 

True. One of them has humiliated us beyond belief and turned us into a national laughing stock though.

You could argue the other one started the process by routinely missing every single opportunity that presented itself through his small minded mentality to owning one of the largest football clubs in the land.

[AVH87]

Although Doug rightly gets a lot of stick for presiding over our last relegation just 5 years after we were top dogs, people also forget he did the right things in rebuilding us. 5 years later we almost won the league again, and fast forward 5 more years and we had 2 more trophies in the cabinet.

As others have said I don't think many fans have felt this low about the Villa ever before, and that includes people who've been going down for over 40 years.

[Jimbo]

Although Doug rightly gets a lot of stick for presiding over our last relegation just 5 years after we were top dogs, people also forget he did the right things in rebuilding us. 5 years later we almost won the league again, and fast forward 5 more years and we had 2 more trophies in the cabinet.

As others have said I don't think many fans have felt this low about the Villa ever before, and that includes people who've been going down for over 40 years.

This is what I mean about luck. Without the intervention of Sir Graham, things could have been very, very different.

Who will be our Graham Taylor now?

[AVH87]

Although Doug rightly gets a lot of stick for presiding over our last relegation just 5 years after we were top dogs, people also forget he did the right things in rebuilding us. 5 years later we almost won the league again, and fast forward 5 more years and we had 2 more trophies in the cabinet.

As others have said I don't think many fans have felt this low about the Villa ever before, and that includes people who've been going down for over 40 years.

This is what I mean about luck. Without the intervention of Sir Graham, things could have been very, very different.

Who will be our Graham Taylor now?

You say luck, but Doug appointed him, as he did with Big Ron and Little.

Now, it has to be Moyes for me or Big Sam if he becomes available.

[Jimbo]

True, but he was incredibly lucky that SGT was a man of principle who wasn't afraid to call out shit when he saw it, or deal with it. In fact, he was lucky a manager like SGT existed at that time, because I struggle to think of anyone else around then who could have sorted out the mess Ellis created. Every successful appointment that came after Taylor was by virtue of Taylor. 

[Clampy]

I remember a fair few 'Ellis Out' chants back in the day as well.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Ellis and Lerner were both treated as saviours when they took over the club. Both made monkeys out of the fans and one left Villa a considerably richer man than when he joined. I hate the pair of them equally.   

[brian green]

Like lots of others, I was there and my honest opinion, sincerely held is that Graham Taylor would really struggle with our current squad.  SGT is an intelligent, thoughtful and honourable man.  The squad made short work of the career of the most recent incumbent with those credentials.

[Chico Hamilton III]

this current squad would have gone down whoever managed them. Taylor would have gone down swinging his arms though, which is why I wouldn't mention him and Garde in the same breath