Randy Lerner

[old man villa fan]

If this situation was happening under Ellis, fans would have been calling for him to be hung, drawn and quartered.  Yet Lerner continues to get an easy ride.  I couldn't care less if Lerners a nice man, he's spent the last 5 years sabotaging one of England's biggest clubs and continues to be allowed to get away with it.

Do you really believe this!  Deliberately throwing away his money to send us down!  The man has made some very poor decisions but to say he did it deliberately is the biggest load of b****** I have ever read on here and that is saying something.  Everybody is entitled to express an opinion but .........

[Dave]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor? Yes, quite comfortably.

And by all accounts, Lescott and Gestede were his picks.

I'd take them now. I wonder if we'd have more than the 5 points in December?

Probably not, because he would still be a horrendous manager. And whoever had replaced him when he got fired would have worse players to use than we currently have.

[saunders_heroes]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor? Yes, quite comfortably.

And by all accounts, Lescott and Gestede were his picks.

I'd take them now. I wonder if we'd have more than the 5 points in December?

Probably not, because he would still be a horrendous manager. And whoever had replaced him when he got fired would have worse players to use than we currently have.

I've seen nothing from our new players to suggest they're better than Lennon and co.

[saunders_heroes]

If this situation was happening under Ellis, fans would have been calling for him to be hung, drawn and quartered.  Yet Lerner continues to get an easy ride.  I couldn't care less if Lerners a nice man, he's spent the last 5 years sabotaging one of England's biggest clubs and continues to be allowed to get away with it.

Do you really believe this!  Deliberately throwing away his money to send us down!  The man has made some very poor decisions but to say he did it deliberately is the biggest load of b****** I have ever read on here and that is saying something.  Everybody is entitled to express an opinion but .........

I read somewhere that we've spent a net sum of £5m per season over the last 5 years. You can call it "poor decisions" and I'll call it sabotage, because that's what it feels like.

[PeterWithesShin]

Between the 3 of them they've started 2 league games this season and have 0 goals and 0 assists and I dread to think what they'd be costing in wages never mind the fees. As much as we're struggling i'm happier with what we have, especially long term.

[PeterWithesShin]

I read somewhere that we've spent a net sum of £5m per season over the last 5 years. You can call it "poor decisions" and I'll call it sabotage, because that's what it feels like.

The net for the last 4 years is around £55m. The year before we made a profit of approx £22m because of Downing and Young.

[old man villa fan]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor? Yes, quite comfortably.

And by all accounts, Lescott and Gestede were his picks.

I'd take them now. I wonder if we'd have more than the 5 points in December?

Probably not, because he would still be a horrendous manager. And whoever had replaced him when he got fired would have worse players to use than we currently have.

I've seen nothing from our new players to suggest they're better than Lennon and co.

The problem is that none of those players play in the positions that are of the greatest concern at the present time and that was clear at the time.

I would say, however, that we did need a striker and I thought at the time that Adebayor was a risk worth taking at the right price.  As it turned out I was wrong and his actions later showed that his head is not in the right place.

[Chris Harte]

Between the 3 of them they've started 2 league games this season and have 0 goals and 0 assists and I dread to think what they'd be costing in wages never mind the fees. As much as we're struggling i'm happier with what we have, especially long term.

To be fair, they're at a club currently fifth(?) in the table.

[LTA]

If this situation was happening under Ellis, fans would have been calling for him to be hung, drawn and quartered.  Yet Lerner continues to get an easy ride.  I couldn't care less if Lerners a nice man, he's spent the last 5 years sabotaging one of England's biggest clubs and continues to be allowed to get away with it.

Do you really believe this!  Deliberately throwing away his money to send us down!  The man has made some very poor decisions but to say he did it deliberately is the biggest load of b****** I have ever read on here and that is saying something.  Everybody is entitled to express an opinion but .........

Where have I said deliberately?

[PeterWithesShin]

Between the 3 of them they've started 2 league games this season and have 0 goals and 0 assists and I dread to think what they'd be costing in wages never mind the fees. As much as we're struggling i'm happier with what we have, especially long term.

To be fair, they're at a club currently fifth(?) in the table.

One left by 'mutual consent', one is at Everton and one is at Spurs.

[Chris Harte]

Between the 3 of them they've started 2 league games this season and have 0 goals and 0 assists and I dread to think what they'd be costing in wages never mind the fees. As much as we're struggling i'm happier with what we have, especially long term.

To be fair, they're at a club currently fifth(?) in the table.

One left by 'mutual consent', one is at Everton and one is at Spurs.

Oh okay. Lol, I should pay more attention.

[old man villa fan]

If this situation was happening under Ellis, fans would have been calling for him to be hung, drawn and quartered.  Yet Lerner continues to get an easy ride.  I couldn't care less if Lerners a nice man, he's spent the last 5 years sabotaging one of England's biggest clubs and continues to be allowed to get away with it.

Do you really believe this!  Deliberately throwing away his money to send us down!  The man has made some very poor decisions but to say he did it deliberately is the biggest load of b****** I have ever read on here and that is saying something.  Everybody is entitled to express an opinion but .........

Where have I said deliberately?

So what is your definition of sabotage?

[Chris Harte]

So what is your definition of sabotage?

Selling Milner and taking Stephen Ireland in return. Did we even reinvest the money (£16M - Milner was worth far more to us than that) in the squad - I can't remember.

I'll catch up tomorrow. Night night all.

[tomd2103]

Between the 3 of them they've started 2 league games this season and have 0 goals and 0 assists and I dread to think what they'd be costing in wages never mind the fees. As much as we're struggling i'm happier with what we have, especially long term.

I was certainly in that camp at the start of the season PWS, but am starting to have some serious concerns about some of those players.  They seem to make the same mistakes week after week and who knows what impact our situation could have on their careers.

[Villafirst]

Most of the players brought in aren't good enough. Hence why we have 5 points on 1st December.......5 points is horrific - I wince when I look at the Prem League table.