Randy Lerner

[Monty]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

As aj2k77 says, it was a shit joke, but it was clearly just a joke - unless you actually think he was delighted to lose?

[Monty]

The comparison with Stylian Petroc is on the money. How many Villa fans were critical of his ties with Celtic and playing his farewell game in a Celtic shirt? None.

How many Villa fans became outraged when there was not a single picture of Paul McGrath in a Villa shirt in the original version of his biography? None.

The Houllier at Anfield sagaette has become a scab to be picked at. At worst a minor error of judgement at best an outpouring of understandable emotion.

Bingo.

[PeterWithesShin]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

You haven't said anything in reply to if Petrov did the same thing.

[saunders_heroes]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

As aj2k77 says, it was a shit joke, but it was clearly just a joke - unless you actually think he was delighted to lose?

Did you laugh then?

[Monty]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

As aj2k77 says, it was a shit joke, but it was clearly just a joke - unless you actually think he was delighted to lose?

Did you laugh then?

Did you actually read my comment?

[saunders_heroes]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

You haven't said anything in reply to if Petrov did the same thing.

But he didn't, but if for example he was in charge of a Villa team who got stuffed 3-0 at Celtic then spent the evening waving at the home fans, touching iconic Celtic signs and claiming if he was to get stuffed by anyone he'd rather it be Celtic I'd criticise him as much as I've criticised Houllier.
He didn't though.

[saunders_heroes]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

As aj2k77 says, it was a shit joke, but it was clearly just a joke - unless you actually think he was delighted to lose?

Did you laugh then?

Did you actually read my comment?

But I didn't claim he was delighted to lose. Read my comments.

[PeterWithesShin]

And what if he did it at VP as Everton manager? Would you still expect their fans to banging on about it 5 years later?

[Monty]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

As aj2k77 says, it was a shit joke, but it was clearly just a joke - unless you actually think he was delighted to lose?

Did you laugh then?

Did you actually read my comment?

But I didn't claim he was delighted to lose. Read my comments.

Well that was a response to Silhill, so I suppose you were under no obligation to read it, but I did describe the joke as 'shit' - not likely to have laughed at it then, you'd have thought.

Anyway, this is tedious. The main issue - you would attack Petrov similarly in similar circumstances if you were a fan of a club that he managed. Well, you're welcome to that view - I just think it's a bit mean-spirited.

[silhillvilla]

Yep, that looks like a rational adult trying to explain to hysterical children what a joke is.

I'm sure every Villa fan out there were pissing themselves laughing when he said it right after the 3-0 stuffing. A joke indeed.

You haven't said anything in reply to if Petrov did the same thing.

But he didn't, but if for example he was in charge of a Villa team who got stuffed 3-0 at Celtic then spent the evening waving at the home fans, touching iconic Celtic signs and claiming if he was to get stuffed by anyone he'd rather it be Celtic I'd criticise him as much as I've criticised Houllier.
He didn't though.

Exactly as I see it.

[brian green]

Everybody in your world Silhill is a conspirator. Everything is so black and baleful. The Houllier at Anfield incident was an hour in 150 years of Villa history not some bloody vengeful apocalypse.

[silhillvilla]

Everybody in your world Silhill is a conspirator. Everything is so black and baleful. The Houllier at Anfield incident was an hour in 150 years of Villa history not some bloody vengeful apocalypse.

Not really Brian , we were discussing GED and his brief time at the club. Over time I think some see him now as some shining beacon in 5 or 6 declining, wasteland seasons. The anfield night yes was one evening. The comments were ill judged, but it kind of somew him up for me , he never really came across as fully engaged in the job. Someone on here described him as a distant consultant which was quite apt. The results were not great either and GMAC salvaged our league position ultimately not GED. He wasn't of good health and that is somewhat mitigating but I don't see him as this visionary guru some are now portraying him as.

[richard moore]

When you're in a bad run, it's freezing cold and you are getting a spanking, the last thing you want to hear is the manager making stupid comments like those and acting like his fit girlfriend from when he was 18 just walked in the room and winked at him. Defend him all you like but it was a bit insulting and pretty stupid. If it was a joke, it was a shit joke.

I wholeheartedly agree

[saunders_heroes]

Everybody in your world Silhill is a conspirator. Everything is so black and baleful. The Houllier at Anfield incident was an hour in 150 years of Villa history not some bloody vengeful apocalypse.

You make it sound like we havent stopped discussing it since the day it happened, which just isn't true.

[richard moore]

Everybody in your world Silhill is a conspirator. Everything is so black and baleful. The Houllier at Anfield incident was an hour in 150 years of Villa history not some bloody vengeful apocalypse.

Not really Brian , we were discussing GED and his brief time at the club. Over time I think some see him now as some shining beacon in 5 or 6 declining, wasteland seasons. The anfield night yes was one evening. The comments were ill judged, but it kind of somew him up for me , he never really came across as fully engaged in the job. Someone on here described him as a distant consultant which was quite apt. The results were not great either and GMAC salvaged our league position ultimately not GED. He wasn't of good health and that is somewhat mitigating but I don't see him as this visionary guru some are now portraying him as.

Very well put, I think you are spot on.