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Offline Villafirst

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #630 on: September 30, 2015, 09:57:45 PM »
Money talks if i were Lerner i would go out and get a top manager by making them an offrer they can't refuse.A top manager should get the same money as the top players.

Trouble is, Lerner is a crap businessman who tries to do it on the cheap. Ffs a net spend of £10M max this summer is a joke like his non leadership.

Offline themossman

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #631 on: September 30, 2015, 10:02:24 PM »
If moyes' position became questionable, I can see randy offering him an out.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #632 on: September 30, 2015, 10:03:25 PM »
Money talks if i were Lerner i would go out and get a top manager by making them an offrer they can't refuse.A top manager should get the same money as the top players.

If at Christmas the manager needs replacing, not only will we need a top manager but he will also need a budget of £30m to spend in the window in either transfer fees or high wages for players on loan.  Before any manager is given the job, he should identify the players he would be able to bring in.  It may only require 2 or 3 players at the most if they are of the right quality to make the difference.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #633 on: September 30, 2015, 10:19:15 PM »
Money talks if i were Lerner i would go out and get a top manager by making them an offrer they can't refuse.A top manager should get the same money as the top players.
SAF had a clause in his deal saying he would be paid more than any player. Then, he'd earned that right.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #634 on: September 30, 2015, 10:30:45 PM »
Those with short memories have forgotten that when Sherwood took over a little over six months ago we were on a runaway train towards relegation. Not only did he arrest that slide, he also got us to the FA Cup Final. He's since shipped out a lot of inadequacy and brought in a lot of new players in a very short timespan. These players need time to settle and gel.
I think the guy has some credit in the bank.

Other than 60 mins against Leicester when have we played well in the last 10 games?

Credit? Not sure we have time given the 'easy' fixtures we have blown already this season

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #635 on: September 30, 2015, 10:31:50 PM »


I always wait until ten games to judge what's what. If we've got less than ten points then it's time to act

I doubt we will win 2 out of the next 3

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #636 on: September 30, 2015, 10:35:28 PM »
I'd also like to understand what value Bloater Wilkins is bringing to the overall coaching / management mix.

I was always surprised at the way KMac was pushed to the side during games last season with Mark Robson having the ear of Sherwood. I'd have thought a manager would want his Assistant Manager close by but KMac was shoved off further down the bench. I got the idea despite all his experience he was not that involved.

Wilkins I have no idea only that he seems very happy to be back in the game.

Loved Ray Wilkins as an up and coming young English Chelsea player in the 70's. However, he has done nothing of note as a coach so why appoint him. You want someone in who is going to add something to the team environment

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #637 on: September 30, 2015, 10:39:42 PM »




One thing I have been wondering and maybe Risso or any of the other bean counters on here can tell me is this; how much have our last four managers cost us when we combine their salaries plus the compensation paid out?


Houlier MON Mcleish Lambert + all the back room staff. between 25 and 35million

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #638 on: September 30, 2015, 10:43:10 PM »




One thing I have been wondering and maybe Risso or any of the other bean counters on here can tell me is this; how much have our last four managers cost us when we combine their salaries plus the compensation paid out?


Houlier MON Mcleish Lambert + all the back room staff. between 25 and 35million

That seems too much. MON cost us a few M but you dont know the clauses in the rest.

I know you were only answering a question but its immaterial now. Just need to look forward

Offline itbrvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #639 on: September 30, 2015, 10:46:06 PM »




One thing I have been wondering and maybe Risso or any of the other bean counters on here can tell me is this; how much have our last four managers cost us when we combine their salaries plus the compensation paid out?


Houlier MON Mcleish Lambert + all the back room staff. between 25 and 35million

That seems too much. MON cost us a few M but you dont know the clauses in the rest.

I know you were only answering a question but its immaterial now. Just need to look forward
We put McLeish in the top 20 highest pain managers in the world list.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #640 on: September 30, 2015, 10:46:11 PM »




One thing I have been wondering and maybe Risso or any of the other bean counters on here can tell me is this; how much have our last four managers cost us when we combine their salaries plus the compensation paid out?


Houlier MON Mcleish Lambert + all the back room staff. between 25 and 35million

That seems too much. MON cost us a few M but you dont know the clauses in the rest.

I know you were only answering a question but its immaterial now. Just need to look forward
There was a figure in the accounts of 8 which was the MON payment, Lambrt had 3 half years to run, I dont think i am that far off.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #641 on: September 30, 2015, 10:50:03 PM »




One thing I have been wondering and maybe Risso or any of the other bean counters on here can tell me is this; how much have our last four managers cost us when we combine their salaries plus the compensation paid out?


Houlier MON Mcleish Lambert + all the back room staff. between 25 and 35million

That seems too much. MON cost us a few M but you dont know the clauses in the rest.

I know you were only answering a question but its immaterial now. Just need to look forward
We put McLeish in the top 20 highest pain managers in the world list.

He was a pain!

Offline BoskoDjembaSalifou

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #642 on: September 30, 2015, 11:58:43 PM »
Simple fact is The Beast is not here to bail us out of the shit this time.

Precisely why we can't afford to give Sherwood time if it isn't working.

Offline KRS

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #643 on: October 01, 2015, 12:47:16 AM »
I'm not sure if he'll be given until Christmas. Obviously we've got a hard run of fixtures and any decision will be based on results, but if we only pick up a handful of points then a decision may need to be made at the end of November. If we write off the Chelski and Cit£h games, then TS needs to make sure we get something out of the Stoke, Swansea, Tottenham and Everton games...minimum to stay in the job should be 6pts (looking at the fixtures of teams around us, on paper they won't be picking up much more than either so we should still be in touching distance even with that bad run of fixtures).
« Last Edit: October 01, 2015, 12:53:33 AM by KRS »

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #644 on: October 01, 2015, 12:53:24 AM »
I'm not sure if he'll be given until Christmas. Obviously we've got a hard run of fixtures and any decision will be based on results, but if we only pick up a handful of points then a decision may need to be made at the end of November. If we write off the Chelski and Cit£h games, then TS needs to make sure we get something out of the Stoke, Swansea, Tottenham and Everton games...minimum to stay in the job should be 6pts.

It's a sad state of affairs when we are already "writing off" games against teams that are looking vulnerable at the moment.

 


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