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Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #330 on: September 28, 2015, 08:20:47 AM »
Tactical naivety is leaving us wide open and we are paying the price .

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #331 on: September 28, 2015, 08:29:22 AM »
I don't think he should be axed yet and I don't think he will be. You don't back a manager in the summer window- a manager who came in at short notice last season, kept us up and got us to our first fa cup final in 15 years, let's not forget- and then sack him in October. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sacking the manager, any manager, in October is pure crazy.

Most people on here said at the start of the season, we've got a new squad, new back room staff, we'll have a slow start, but they need time. And most people did say that. How much time he gets is a matter of conjecture, I'd say if we're adrift in January then maybe, probably yes. But give the guy a chance. October?

Offline Boz

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #332 on: September 28, 2015, 08:37:25 AM »
I voted no but if we are stuck on 5/6 points after 10 games it would change to a yes as that would probably mean we would already be 5/6 points behind the club in 17th, we couldent let that situation continue, its all very well saying give Tim till Xmas but we could be bottom and terminal by then, next 3 games absolutely vital for Tim and Villa, we simply have to beat Stoke.

This is my take as well, but I'd like to know what Wilkins is doing in his role as TS' assistant?

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #333 on: September 28, 2015, 08:37:57 AM »
He needs to start learning from his mistakes ASAP - else we're fucked.
He should have got a better GK in during the summer. Also he needs more leaders, there was no talkers on that pitch on the weekend.
sherwood also needs someone who can train the defence, they're totally lost at times - no positional sense at all. Especially from the full backs. The system of playing no-one wide in attacking areas means the full backs have too much space in front of them, which means they're going to get caught out far too often, it also means there's no protection for them.

I could go on but meh...

Offline Steve kirk

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #334 on: September 28, 2015, 08:38:17 AM »
I don't think he should be axed yet and I don't think he will be. You don't back a manager in the summer window- a manager who came in at short notice last season, kept us up and got us to our first fa cup final in 15 years, let's not forget- and then sack him in October. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sacking the manager, any manager, in October is pure crazy.

Robbo Its not like me to consider sacking a manager after 10 games and I am trying to hold my nerve but fear has
kicked in, I think I like many others are just completely worn out after the last 5 years which has sent me into panic
mode very early, I would love Tim to sort things out and prove doubters like me wrong, I'm just frightened thats all.

Most people on here said at the start of the season, we've got a new squad, new back room staff, we'll have a slow start, but they need time. And most people did say that. How much time he gets is a matter of conjecture, I'd say if we're adrift in January then maybe, probably yes. But give the guy a chance. October?

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #335 on: September 28, 2015, 08:42:49 AM »
I don't think he should be axed yet and I don't think he will be. You don't back a manager in the summer window- a manager who came in at short notice last season, kept us up and got us to our first fa cup final in 15 years, let's not forget- and then sack him in October. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sacking the manager, any manager, in October is pure crazy.

Robbo Its not like me to consider sacking a manager after 10 games and I am trying to hold my nerve but fear has
kicked in, I think I like many others are just completely worn out after the last 5 years which has sent me into panic
mode very early, I would love Tim to sort things out and prove doubters like me wrong, I'm just frightened thats all.

Most people on here said at the start of the season, we've got a new squad, new back room staff, we'll have a slow start, but they need time. And most people did say that. How much time he gets is a matter of conjecture, I'd say if we're adrift in January then maybe, probably yes. But give the guy a chance. October?

Oops look at middle paragraph for my reasoning Robbo

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #336 on: September 28, 2015, 08:47:47 AM »
If some lunatic decided to poach him (and he walked) who really would give a shit?

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #337 on: September 28, 2015, 08:48:23 AM »
Depends if Allardyce is the replacement.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #338 on: September 28, 2015, 08:49:25 AM »
I would give him until the end of October to get some results. If he can't get at least two wins in the next month then its a goodbye from me.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #339 on: September 28, 2015, 08:51:42 AM »
I'm not suggesting they sack him, but Fox & Lerner need to decide sharpish (December a the latest) - they can't leave it till February this time.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #340 on: September 28, 2015, 08:54:47 AM »
I voted no but if we are stuck on 5/6 points after 10 games it would change to a yes as that would probably mean we would already be 5/6 points behind the club in 17th, we couldent let that situation continue, its all very well saying give Tim till Xmas but we could be bottom and terminal by then, next 3 games absolutely vital for Tim and Villa, we simply have to beat Stoke.

This is my take as well, but I'd like to know what Wilkins is doing in his role as TS' assistant?

What he should be doing is the press conferences. He is good at that kind of thing and it would keep Sherwood away from the microphone where he is a danger to Aston Villa....and the english language!

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #341 on: September 28, 2015, 08:57:24 AM »
I don't think he should be axed yet and I don't think he will be. You don't back a manager in the summer window- a manager who came in at short notice last season, kept us up and got us to our first fa cup final in 15 years, let's not forget- and then sack him in October. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sacking the manager, any manager, in October is pure crazy.

Most people on here said at the start of the season, we've got a new squad, new back room staff, we'll have a slow start, but they need time. And most people did say that. How much time he gets is a matter of conjecture, I'd say if we're adrift in January then maybe, probably yes. But give the guy a chance. October?

That's fine for those who thought Sherwood had potential when he arrived. Whereas, for those who saw him as a cocky blagger who would be good at motivating the players temporarily, but wouldn't have a scooby about game management or instilling a particular brand of football and would eventually get found out....not so much.

From their point of view, giving him time is pointless, as they never believed he would achieve anything in the first place. Nothing they have seen thus far has done anything to suggest they were wrong.

I have to admit, I am probably in this camp. Don't get me wrong, I do like the players he's brought in (although he didn't do that alone). We have a mostly new defence, and it will take time to settle. I think things will improve a bit as they all get to know each other better and develop more confidence and understanding.

But I find myself wondering whether Sherwood, with his insistence on chopping and changing the tactics and personnel, is going to be a help or a hindrance to them. He strikes me as a manager who has found himself with a load of players, and is trying to find a system to accommodate them, rather than having bought the right players to fit his preferred style of play. And that's a shit way to go about things.

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #342 on: September 28, 2015, 09:12:23 AM »
I don't think he should be axed yet and I don't think he will be. You don't back a manager in the summer window- a manager who came in at short notice last season, kept us up and got us to our first fa cup final in 15 years, let's not forget- and then sack him in October. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but sacking the manager, any manager, in October is pure crazy.

Most people on here said at the start of the season, we've got a new squad, new back room staff, we'll have a slow start, but they need time. And most people did say that. How much time he gets is a matter of conjecture, I'd say if we're adrift in January then maybe, probably yes. But give the guy a chance. October?

Probably one of the most sensible thing i've read on here since Saturday night.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #343 on: September 28, 2015, 09:12:38 AM »
I'm not suggesting they sack him, but Fox & Lerner need to decide sharpish (December a the latest) - they can't leave it till February this time.

i think our next 6 games will decide his fate, if and if we win three of them it will be 13 points from 13 games

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #344 on: September 28, 2015, 09:14:02 AM »
I think he needs to decide on a tactic and try that for half a dozen games, I'm not suggesting he goes all MON and has one way of approaching games, but having a different style each week can't be helping anyone.

 


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