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Offline peter w

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1905 on: October 10, 2015, 06:08:42 PM »
Paulie is completely right, I often wonder how long does it take to our board (if we have any) to understand that we appointed a crap manager.
Donadoni or Guidolin would finally bring a bit of footballing knowledge in the squad after years of amateurs tactics by PL and TS, and if an old school coach like Ranieri is third in the table they could shine like new Pep Guardiolas in the low level of this Premier League.

Ranieri is third because he hasn't had to do anything with Leicester. When they start dropping points more consistently and he has to impose his style they'll come unstuck. I'm not sold a donadoni et al. Having a style that works in a league that you know and a tempo you prepare for doesn't mean it will translate to a foreign league and a different style of play.

british manager for me or a proven manager from a similar style league.

This is the logic which has got us into the mess we're in. Well, actually not quite, because to be fair to you I imagine you'd take someone from the Bundesliga, whereas our genius board thinks 'EPL or nada'.

Bundesliga, Holland, Nordic countries (to a point) etc etc

Offline paul_e

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1906 on: October 10, 2015, 06:30:05 PM »
Paulie is completely right, I often wonder how long does it take to our board (if we have any) to understand that we appointed a crap manager.
Donadoni or Guidolin would finally bring a bit of footballing knowledge in the squad after years of amateurs tactics by PL and TS, and if an old school coach like Ranieri is third in the table they could shine like new Pep Guardiolas in the low level of this Premier League.

Ranieri is third because he hasn't had to do anything with Leicester. When they start dropping points more consistently and he has to impose his style they'll come unstuck. I'm not sold a donadoni et al. Having a style that works in a league that you know and a tempo you prepare for doesn't mean it will translate to a foreign league and a different style of play.

british manager for me or a proven manager from a similar style league.

This is the logic which has got us into the mess we're in. Well, actually not quite, because to be fair to you I imagine you'd take someone from the Bundesliga, whereas our genius board thinks 'EPL or nada'.

Bundesliga, Holland, Nordic countries (to a point) etc etc

You'd agree on de Boer then, 4 titles in 5 seasons in the netherlands is impressive, especially when you consider that PSV have had a fucking good squad in all of those seasons and he's only lost out to them once.

Offline Mr Diggles

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1907 on: October 10, 2015, 06:49:40 PM »
I must have missed the news that Sherwood has been sacked then, all this talk of new managers.

I honestly think it wouldn't matter much who was managing the club at the moment, it really feels like we are, as Keane said, dormant. I look at the Southamptons, Swanseas, Palaces and Leicesters of this current world and would love us to be as inconsistently entertaining as they are.

And then I realise that I can still celebrate their success because its football - just because Villa are stinking out the league at the moment (an issue to be remedied one way or the other you feel) doesn't mean you can't enjoy Southampton beating Chelsea  etc a little bit!

The club will stumble on from one shitty weekend to another at the moment, and with or without Sherwood I feel we'll be back here next season or in a few seasons time.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1908 on: October 10, 2015, 07:08:28 PM »
Another one in agreement with Paulie's post above. The low, low expectations of the club are self defeating, because with them comes a lack of pressure to perform. Almost everybody at the club is coasting. Shit trickles down from above.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1909 on: October 10, 2015, 07:49:51 PM »
My fear is even if we lost say the next 2, 3 or even 4 on the spin they still won't get rid of Sherwood . The club is shrouded in apathy.

Offline dave shelley

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1910 on: October 10, 2015, 08:00:24 PM »
Sometimes I think the perception of Aston Villa by whomever the present encumbents be, is akin to that of the Titanic...unsinkable.  Look how that turned out.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1911 on: October 10, 2015, 08:01:32 PM »
Titanic sank on its maiden voyage though.

Offline dave shelley

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1912 on: October 10, 2015, 08:05:43 PM »
You're missing the point, it's the thinking.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1913 on: October 10, 2015, 08:13:04 PM »
You're missing the point, it's the thinking.

Correct, it's the stinkin' thinkin'.

Offline DB

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1914 on: October 10, 2015, 08:51:22 PM »
Titanic sank on its maiden voyage though.

That's what he was sying....

Online Villa in Denmark

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1915 on: October 10, 2015, 08:58:09 PM »
On Peter W's point about similar leagues.
Absolutely no under any circumstances, look in Scandinavia unless you can poach Lars Lagerback from Malmö. The standard is just too poor.

The other 2 stars have been OGS (didn't he do well and Ståle Solbakken (who did even worse.)

Alternatively Kasper Hjulmand who was Okore's trainer at FCN when they won the Danish league and played in CL lasted 8 months at Mainz.


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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1916 on: October 10, 2015, 10:01:50 PM »
Titanic sank on its maiden voyage though.

Very similar in movement to Gestede

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1917 on: October 10, 2015, 10:26:18 PM »

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Re: Poll - Sherwood - get rid?
« Reply #1918 on: October 10, 2015, 10:47:08 PM »
2 games to save job

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tim-sherwood-given-two-games-6610295

It's the Mirror, though, with their famously awful record on all things Villa. The Brendan Rodgers thing also looks like throwing two news stories together to get copy and clicks. It all reminds me of that book 'Questions To Which The Answer Is No', about how journalists spin articles out of nothing for deadlines.

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