Aston Villa vs. West Brom Post-Debacle Thread

[PaulTheVillan]

That was awful. Too early for a change of manager?

[Legion]

We're not in the bottom three. That's a positive. Of sorts. I think.

[TonyD]

That was awful. Too early for a change of manager?
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10pm Tuesday.

[PaulTheVillan]

That was awful. Too early for a change of manager?

10pm Tuesday.

Possibly...

[pauliewalnuts]

That was awful. Too early for a change of manager?

It is difficult.

I would refrain from saying sack him, but at the same time, I have zero confidence in him.

If he doesn't improve - a lot, and relatively quickly (ie before christmas), then I would definitely sack him, rather than do the "give him a couple of seasons" thing yet again.

Put it like this, though, if you stuck a button in front of me now and said "push that button or Sherwood gets sacked", I don't think I'd push it.

[PaulWinch again]

It's just so fucking boring to be shit for five or six years in a row. I am sick to death of it.

[ChicagoLion]

Based on how much timeLambert got we are a very long way from a new manager, probably one relegation and a failed promotion away.

[paul richard]

With the completion of today's game TS has now been in charge for exactly half a season.  Out of those 19 games we have managed to lose a whopping 11, with six wins and a couple of draws.  (And even those two draws, against a couple of poor teams in QPR and Sunderland, were underachievements).  So that's 20 pts in half a season.  If we progress at that rate we might save ourselves by a point or so once again, but I wouldn't bet on it.  The promoted clubs aren't following the script and are inconveniently picking up points.  Newcastle may drag themselves clear eventually, and only Sunderland look like a good bet for nailed on relegation.  In fact it feels like we're turning in to Sunderland Mk II - constantly changing managers and playing staff but relentlessly poor. 

[Whiney MacWhineface]

My expectation under Tim was cautious optimism with a pattern of win some, lose some with a competitive edge.

I acknowledge the injuries, I acknowledge the difficulties of blending so many new players, but fuck me this is depressing.

[gpbarr]

Sherwood has to go.

I'm sorry but you cannot keep excusing the very basic managerial errors he keeps making. Yes he has not had long and yes the team has played some nice stuff occasionally, but he doesn't seem to learn which is the most worrying aspect of his whole tenure to date.

1. How can anyone keep picking Gabby - its completely obvious to anyone he's a spent force (if he ever was one to begin with). If Sherwood keeps picking him, we will lose many more than we win because you can't expect to win with 10 against 11.

2. Takes one of the only 2 creative guys off the pitch and replaces him with Bacuna - WTF! How does that make any sense at all? And Bacuna has played like a piece of cardboard this season. Just what was the strategic intent there?!?!?

3. His formation isn't working and he never has a plan B. If last week was bad enough, this was even worse - from the first second it never even looked remotely like we would win that game. Utter shit for 96 mins.

Tom Fox needs to do his god damn job and rescue a failed experiment fast.     

[Villa Lew]

I'm on my sick bed at the moment so unfortunately, I mean, fortunately I missed the match. Heard plenty of negatives, can anybody give me any positives at all.

That North Stand is sparkling clean.

That's cheered me up no end. We desperately need Gana and Traore back fit.

[Ormy Droid]

That was awful. Too early for a change of manager?

No, it's time to cut our losses. Get Mike Bassett in instead

[QuintonVilla]

That was honestly as bad as anything I saw under Lamberk. What even is our style of play? Have we got one? All I saw first half was lamping it up to Gabby, in the air against McAuley and Evans. Pointless. Second half lamp it up to Gestede who won one header. When it comes to tactics and subs Sherwood is clueless. The most galling thing about today is Albion are absolute s#ite but they won't have an easier game this season. We're so slow and play with no tempo, theres nothing to get the crowd going.

Too many players who aren't good enough. Amavi is good on the ball but can't defend. Lescott and Richards are all over the place at times and are hesitant. Sanchez and Westwood often get outfought and out thought and offer nothing going forward. Our strikers are all piss poor.

The players and Sherwood owe us a big performance and result on Tuesday, I don't just mean scraping through 1-0 or on penalties, i'm talking about a high tempo from the off and a convincing win. Will we get it? I'm not so sure after today, I think Blues have got a real chance of beating us now.

[SoccerHQ]

Woeful.

Gambling on replacing Benteke with unproven strikers is coming home to roost now, we just took it for granted how often in similar games he'd bail us out, that option isn't there anymore.

Going to be a serious struggle up to xmas imo, we need to get Gueye and Traore FIT. Maybe then we can start at least picking up draws and maybe a win.

[Jockey Randall]

Obviously Gil was one of the slim hopes of opening them up, but it was reported he hadn't trained at all this week so I'm guessing the reason they would give would be fitness rather than tactical for him being taken off.