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Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #135 on: August 29, 2015, 06:20:11 PM »
I'll ignore the hyperbole

Sinclair 8

He took his penalty superbly and made a great run to get in the right place to tp his goal in but other than his shot/cross to Richards, he was hardly in the game. Not his fault, as I've explained earlier but 8 points I can only assume are for the goals as you give Gestede 4.

Sinclair is far more suited to playing centrally, he's no winger but we need to find ways of getting him more involved in games.

Are you for real? He's scored five in two games and you want him more involved?

Erm.. yes. Don't you or do you think he's playing to his limit and getting great service?

I think he's playing well, and his goalscoring record bears this out.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #136 on: August 29, 2015, 06:20:24 PM »
I agree my 8 for Sinclair was generous. Probably too much. He did score two and set up an absolute sitter though

My wife gave me a lovely surprise and brought me up to the game. Purnells later

She thought Gestede was awful too. His hold up play did improve a bit but his touch and shooting. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear

Hopefully it's partly confidence and will improve




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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #137 on: August 29, 2015, 06:20:59 PM »
Where have you found anyone content with a point? There are just some of us who haven't jumped off a bridge like you.

When we can't beat the poorest side in the division at home, don't be surprised if people might be a little annoyed.  It's a poor result whatever way you look at it.

Annoyed yes. Frustrated sure. What you said, no. I'm sorry it just isn't as horrific as you are making it out to be.

I said not winning at home to them is unacceptable and that we still have to improve the squad.  Dont see what's wrong that that view.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #138 on: August 29, 2015, 06:22:57 PM »
I agree my 8 for Sinclair was generous. Probably too much. He did score two and set up an absolute sitter though

My wife gave me a lovely surprise and brought me up to the game. Purnells later

She thought Gestede was awful too. His hold up play did improve a bit but his touch and shooting. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear

Hopefully it's partly confidence and will improve

I agree. I like Rudy but it seems he is struggling to cope with the technical requirements of the Prem. I hope he can find his feet. That said, Kozak certainly should have gotten a couple minutes today. I fail to understand his lack of appearances.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #139 on: August 29, 2015, 06:24:14 PM »
I'll ignore the hyperbole

Sinclair 8

He took his penalty superbly and made a great run to get in the right place to tp his goal in but other than his shot/cross to Richards, he was hardly in the game. Not his fault, as I've explained earlier but 8 points I can only assume are for the goals as you give Gestede 4.

Sinclair is far more suited to playing centrally, he's no winger but we need to find ways of getting him more involved in games.

Are you for real? He's scored five in two games and you want him more involved?

Erm.. yes. Don't you or do you think he's playing to his limit and getting great service?

I think he's playing well, and his goalscoring record bears this out.

All the more resaon to get him more involved and give him better service, I'd have thought.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #140 on: August 29, 2015, 06:26:10 PM »
some positive signs of a team growing, we need to be patient for 10/12 games while the team is forming, we looked more of a bunch of guys thrown together than a team.  We must be patient........

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #141 on: August 29, 2015, 06:29:09 PM »
LTA, Villadelph, if we play this game in a month or 2 we win easily, today we did easily enough to win but there were still a few things where we haven't quite settled.  For that reason not getting the 3 points we deserved was frustrating but you've both overreacted to a ridiculous extent which is why so many people are calling you out on it.

Rudy, I think Sinclair is fine, right now our best 11 would be him up front on his own with adama, gil and grealish behind him, pick that front 4 and I think you'll see him a lot more invovled and he'd score plenty.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #142 on: August 29, 2015, 06:29:40 PM »
Where have you found anyone content with a point? There are just some of us who haven't jumped off a bridge like you.

When we can't beat the poorest side in the division at home, don't be surprised if people might be a little annoyed.  It's a poor result whatever way you look at it.

Annoyed yes. Frustrated sure. What you said, no. I'm sorry it just isn't as horrific as you are making it out to be.

I said not winning at home to them is unacceptable and that we still have to improve the squad.  Dont see what's wrong that that view.

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We are in deep trouble this season.  This is a game you have to win if you want to be clear of trouble.


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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #143 on: August 29, 2015, 06:32:53 PM »
 
I would love to see this side given a chance when they are all fit and up to speed.


                             Guzan

Hutton       Richards         Clark/Lescott       Amavi
 
                      Sanchez   Ghana

     Adama                   Gil                      Grealish

                               Ayew

This is a great shout if you ignore the fact that you have left out our biggest attacking threat and the man that has scored 5 goals in 5 days. For me, Sinclair would go left and Grealish into the centre

Yeah...you are right. Sinclair in goal scoring form and all that.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #144 on: August 29, 2015, 06:34:31 PM »
I agree my 8 for Sinclair was generous. Probably too much. He did score two and set up an absolute sitter though

My wife gave me a lovely surprise and brought me up to the game. Purnells later

She thought Gestede was awful too. His hold up play did improve a bit but his touch and shooting. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear

Hopefully it's partly confidence and will improve
I agree. I like Rudy but it seems he is struggling to cope with the technical requirements of the Prem. I hope he can find his feet. That said, Kozak certainly should have gotten a couple minutes today. I fail to understand his lack of appearances.

Sherwood doesnt rate Kozak, would have brought him on for Gestede for last 10 mins too.

Worrying for Ayew that he didnt see game time on a day when Gabby, Traore and Grealish werent fit

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #145 on: August 29, 2015, 06:34:39 PM »
Sanchez and Gana very good, again.

All Clark had to do was stay on his feet and the chap would never have got his shot off.
Unsure if it was a free kick for their first, but nothing anyone could do about the strike itself.

Was it a 2nd half penalty on Gil? Couldn't see from my position.

I thouht Guzan positioned himself badly for the first.

How?
The wall covered the left side 1/3 Guzan the other 2/3, which I reckon is about right.
The shot went around the wall not up and over, have to say it was an excellent free kick, Dave.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #146 on: August 29, 2015, 06:35:03 PM »
I'm confused now, is Sinclair not enough fart now he's providing the err, shit?

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #147 on: August 29, 2015, 06:35:52 PM »
LTA, Villadelph, if we play this game in a month or 2 we win easily, today we did easily enough to win but there were still a few things where we haven't quite settled.  For that reason not getting the 3 points we deserved was frustrating but you've both overreacted to a ridiculous extent which is why so many people are calling you out on it.

Rudy, I think Sinclair is fine, right now our best 11 would be him up front on his own with adama, gil and grealish behind him, pick that front 4 and I think you'll see him a lot more invovled and he'd score plenty.

Nah. Just nah.

I'm not overreacting at all. I said we played well, I said we deserved to win.. but we didn't get the result we deserved. This is a fixture that was a must win for us, really don't care what anyone else thinks.

We looked gelled aside from Rudy. Midfield played with great continuity and cohesion. Defense, barring Clark's lapse, was above average. We don't get many easy home matches, this was one of them and a fixture we have to win.

Maybe I'm just competitive? I'm not content with underperforming or dropped points. When the season kicks off every game is a must win. I'm not happy to be in the league, I want to strive for success.

You seem set that we'll be better in two months. I thought the same thing last year. You need to collect points when you can.

Again, I thought we played well but results are what matter. I want to win every single game, but more than anything win the games we are supposed to win.

Start hunting before you go hungry. 

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2015, 06:36:28 PM »
Rudy, I think Sinclair is fine, right now our best 11 would be him up front on his own with adama, gil and grealish behind him, pick that front 4 and I think you'll see him a lot more invovled and he'd score plenty.

Very true. I think when we have Grealish and Adama back with Gil in the hole we'll have so many options teams won't know where to hide. Add to that a solid defensive midfield of Sanchez and Gueye and we start to look a completely different team.

Today was frustrating as we kept going with the same tactic of throwing in balls from wide positions in the hope Gestede would get his head on one of them. Despite missing Grealish and Adama, it was still a case of us being our own worst enemy as there were players on the pitch that could have mixed it up.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #149 on: August 29, 2015, 06:38:35 PM »
We should be honest with ourselves ....we will not play many teams worse than Sunderland.
I think its fair to say tonite we will be at best in the bottom six which is very disappointing
Didn't understand the manager today ....one change ....what does Kozak need to do to get time on the pitch
While we have a central midfield of the three we did today we are never going to create enough clear chances or score from those players
The balance of the team is not right and the players missing Jack and Adama are both wide men not central players who create  - remember Jack has yet to score
Next couple of days are massive in the transfer window with at least 3 first team players needed
So disappointed to write the above as I do not generally moan but today was poor and I don't recall 22 shots !

 


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