Guzan v Given

[john e]

I recall given was very lucky against Leicester with a bad clearance and the rebound went wide?  Not convinced by given at all. Stick with guzan who has been one of our best performers in recent years.

Quite. Guzan is a very good, if flawed goalkeeper.

Given is a competent goalkeeper.

I'd say stick with the very good one. Guzan shouldn't be dropped because he had a howler today, anymore than Benteke should be dropped because he missed a couple of great chances and couldn't stay onside.

The huge difference there is that Benteke has been in superb form and one miss doesn't change that  Guzan has been in poor form, and his dismal display today just put the hat on that.  A lot of places were carrying the story that Sherwood was thinking of replacing him with Given anyway, I bet he wishes he had now.

We will find out next game if Sherwood was considering replacing Guzan, because he won't need a bigger excuse than that howler to introduce a change

But I don't really know where your getting this consistent poor form of Guzan comes from,
I reckon your the sort of guy who sees one missed cross in a game and that's it he's had a poor game
He might not be quite as good As he can be but he set the bar very high,
For me Risso you are the king if the knee jerk reaction on here, every player would be dropped virtually every game if it was up to you, I think you need to understand the game a little more to be honest

Guzan made a massive howler last night, he's not been in a long run of poor form no matter what you say,
 if his confidence is shot because of last night then Sherwood will replace him, if he sticks by him and tells him he's the best,builds his confidence up he could easily become the top keeper he is again

[CT]

On current form I'd stick Given in against Everton, although I do think Guzan is the better all round keeper.

That howler yesterday was truly the stuff of nightmares though.

[PaulWinch again]

I think next year we need a keeper who can compete with Brad and really fight for the no.1 shirt.

[LTA]

I don't think it is knee-jerk.  Yes the defenders didn't exactly help him, but its all down to poor communication between them.  Guzan has looked increasingly ill at ease all season and needs to be dropped for the run in. 

I would go as far as saying that if we leave Guzan in the side, our chances of going down increase.

[Phil from the upper holte]

I think it sends a bad messaage, make a mistake and your out! Nah

[Phil from the upper holte]

It was a fucking clanger though

[Dave]

The huge difference there is that Benteke has been in superb form and one miss doesn't change that  Guzan has been in poor form, and his dismal display today just put the hat on that.

That depends on whether you think he has been in poor form. Which I don't think he has.

I've looked back at all the results since January, and can't find a goal that I'd put him at fault for over any other player, yesterday aside.

Which games, moments or goals are you thinking of that show he is in poor form?

[PeterWithe]

The missed cross from the free kick was pretty dismal as well, Brad didnt get within a country mile of it. Thing with nervous keepers is that it speads amongst the defence. If he's not on top of his game against Everton I'd consider a change.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Guzan made a mistake and you made a knee-jerk reaction, forgetting all the good games he's had for us.

Given has played well in his few games, Guzan has played well in lots of games.

[Risso]

I recall given was very lucky against Leicester with a bad clearance and the rebound went wide?  Not convinced by given at all. Stick with guzan who has been one of our best performers in recent years.

Quite. Guzan is a very good, if flawed goalkeeper.

Given is a competent goalkeeper.

I'd say stick with the very good one. Guzan shouldn't be dropped because he had a howler today, anymore than Benteke should be dropped because he missed a couple of great chances and couldn't stay onside.

The huge difference there is that Benteke has been in superb form and one miss doesn't change that  Guzan has been in poor form, and his dismal display today just put the hat on that.  A lot of places were carrying the story that Sherwood was thinking of replacing him with Given anyway, I bet he wishes he had now.

We will find out next game if Sherwood was considering replacing Guzan, because he won't need a bigger excuse than that howler to introduce a change

But I don't really know where your getting this consistent poor form of Guzan comes from,
I reckon your the sort of guy who sees one missed cross in a game and that's it he's had a poor game
He might not be quite as good As he can be but he set the bar very high,
For me Risso you are the king if the knee jerk reaction on here, every player would be dropped virtually every game if it was up to you, I think you need to understand the game a little more to be honest

Guzan made a massive howler last night, he's not been in a long run of poor form no matter what you say,
 if his confidence is shot because of last night then Sherwood will replace him, if he sticks by him and tells him he's the best,builds his confidence up he could easily become the top keeper he is again

Cheers for all that mate, appreciate it.

[kippaxvilla2]

I do wonder whether Guzan was affected mentally by not playing at Wembley last week and its playing on his mind.  Parkes in a interview earlier this week said he was hurting a lot.  If we are going to play Given against Arsenal then it probably makes sense to give him some game time before then.  But I don't think he's that great either.

[silhillvilla]

Given organises the defence better than Guzan.
Time for some bold decisions to be Made.

[Legion]

Difficult one. Stick with Guzan. Just.

[supertom]

I think it sends a bad messaage, make a mistake and your out! Nah

Were he having a good season and made this mistake out of the blue then I'd agree. But he's been erratic to say the least. He has had good games, but he's had games where he's come out for crosses and been miles off, or charged out and been caught in no mans land or let in soft goals. He was poor against QPR. He's actually really got away with it in a couple of games where he's done something rash and not been punished. He's just not looking anywhere near as commanding this season as the previous too. But this can sometimes happen when you play every single game. Even Mourinho, who has two of the worlds best keepers, has had to switch between them at times.

[Clampy]

It was an horrendous fuck up yesterday but overall he's been great since he's been first choice.