Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[OzVilla]

Chickens are now roosting proudly, I too couldn't believe it when some posters thought we'd done great 'business' in the Summer. We didn't, we bought (if that's the right word) freebies and cast offs. And couple this with Lambert as an inept leader, no Backroom staff to keep the squad honest and this is the result.  Its been coming for years in truth, we could all see it, January's window was a joke, actually no it was an insult considering our position.

We arn't down yet. We have currently a mini league of 3 from 4. There's a long way to go, but we must must must get 4 points from the Albion and Sunderland games.

I didn't want Sherwood either and he's showing why, we needed someone who would command instant respect and knows the management game just to see us through. Instead we took a gamble on an inexperienced manager with none of his Backroom team available.

It's not Sherwoods fault though in reality and if we do go down I hope Lambert is held rightly responsible (such a debacle should rightly rest on his cv) and Lerner loses a shit load more money into the bargain, he fuckingwell deserves too.

[E I Adio]

It's disappointing I know, but I'm surprised that so many people believe that Sherwood should have made an immediate impact on results. I do think that the standard of play has noticeably improved and I also think we were somewhat unlucky against Newcastle, but we have a very long way to go before we can consistently produce acceptable performances, such was the malaise that he inherited. There are some positive signs and I just hope that he has enough time to turn the runaway bus around before it careers over the edge of the cliff.

I was impressed with his summary of the game, if only that I could clearly hear and understand every word.

[alftitimus]

"Sir Tim" has now digressed from his ranting and spuming at individuals, that so marked him out as a "future-wonder-boy" at Spurs, for his  forthright character and 'Mourhino-Like'  no-nonsense.
Unfortunately his London-media support came over as......all-about-me..at Spurs.

Now...at us, he has adjusted his approach.. The team need pressure put on them.
"Sir Tim " is okay...the team is the problem.

He might be right.

He followed Lambert's long-ball policy.
He then followed Lambert's "pass to the opponent" policy, where we kept the ball on the floor for a minute even two minutes, then passed it to Obertan...one of our new midfielders.

Two matches..two different approaches. One is a fall-back on a FAILED tactic {Lambert}
...Another one is a FAILED Half-time talk, when it went so "SUPER"apparantly against Leicester....

BOTH

But Fox fixed the deal..."Sir Tim" -- would sign up.

Every club needs a "Fox"

 

[adrenachrome]

I dunno alf, to be fair.

You've got your fonts, you've got your colours, you've got an emoticon, but have you got a point?

I think if you add a gif or two and some large font exclamation points we will be closer to the crux.

[preston28]

Well aside from the game I had a great day in Newcastle. Beers with my Toon supporting mates before and after the game.
As for the game / team / manager I can't say any more than others posters on here.
It was tense between the 2 supporters at the end though - I think payback for when we relegated them.

Don't think Newcastle will be on my away day agenda next season.

[olaftab]

"Sir Tim" has now digressed from his ranting and spuming at individuals, that so marked him out as a "future-wonder-boy" at Spurs, for his  forthright character and 'Mourhino-Like'  no-nonsense.
Unfortunately his London-media support came over as......all-about-me..at Spurs.

Commonly known as Chiseller Tim in that part of the world as chiselling is his greatest hobby and really not much else. Tom obviously took reference from a few of his girlfriends before appointing him so what could go wrong?

[silhillvilla]

Fair play to all the travelling fans and good old Doug.
Was there any leftovers from the EDL March up there ?

[claret and blue blood]

Sherwood is probably in the same frame of mind as us, which ever way he shuffles the pack the result is the same, for whatever reason the 'squad' available to him is just devoid of a winning habit mentality call it what you like..Looking at him on the touchline his patience with some of them won't last long and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few untried U21's given a go soon.
We all know where the fault lies for our demise and until he goes ( hopefully getting stung by a big fat loss) we just have to get behind Sherwood and Kevin Mac and take whatever on the chin.

[Ron Manager]

What I don't understand is why Delph (since his call up) has become so ineffective for the club that pays his wages. People are always having a go at Cleverley, Weimann and Agbonlahor in  but Delph with his ability should be striving with every sinew to keep us up. His form has been shocking as of late. Even Benteke appeared to be trying hard yesterday without any help whatsoever. As for Sherwood not playing Carles Gil
but still selecting that dreadful excuse for a footballer Agbonlahor that says it all for me. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't play Tuesday night.

I would further like to add my appreciation for those that follow Villa away consistently, they are magnificent. And you can include Doug Ellis in that statement. The team do not deserve such support.

[Des Little]

Fair play to all the travelling fans and good old Doug.
Was there any leftovers from the EDL March up there ?

Don't worry, I've bought you a St George flag back

[silhillvilla]

I suspect Gil isn't even 100% fit .
Who are our reserve strikers ? Robinson is on loan isn't he ? Who else do we have ?

[claret and blue blood]

I suspect Gil isn't even 100% fit .
Who are our reserve strikers ? Robinson is on loan isn't he ? Who else do we have ?

When a 16 year old ( Hepburn Murphy ) is training with the first team, it sums it up.
That wanker Lambert pissed all our youth down the drain , Daniel Johnson sold without ever getting a chance for example, Robinson recalled not used  , Sherwood would do well to recall Gary Gardner but it's all way too late.

[olaftab]

Sherwood is probably in the same frame of mind as us, which ever way he shuffles the pack the result is the same, for whatever reason the 'squad' available to him is just devoid of a winning habit mentality call it what you like..Looking at him on the touchline his patience with some of them won't last long and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few untried U21's given a go soon.
We all know where the fault lies for our demise and until he goes ( hopefully getting stung by a big fat loss) we just have to get behind Sherwood and Kevin Mac and take whatever on the chin.

We can't fix the past but can do something for here and now so Tom and Tim have taken it on on themselves to do that. Start of that is Tim accepting the job with immediate task of keeping us in the division. He is or should not be in the same frame of mind as rest of us. He has been chosen for having the wherewithal to deal with the situation club finds itself in just now. So far he has shown nothing.

[Ron Manager]

Sherwood is probably in the same frame of mind as us, which ever way he shuffles the pack the result is the same, for whatever reason the 'squad' available to him is just devoid of a winning habit mentality call it what you like..Looking at him on the touchline his patience with some of them won't last long and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few untried U21's given a go soon.
We all know where the fault lies for our demise and until he goes ( hopefully getting stung by a big fat loss) we just have to get behind Sherwood and Kevin Mac and take whatever on the chin.

We can't fix the past but can do something for here and now so Tom and Tim have taken it on on themselves to do that. Start of that is Tim accepting the job with immediate task of keeping us in the division. He is or should not be in the same frame of mind as rest of us. He has been chosen for having the wherewithal to deal with the situation club finds itself in just now. So far he has shown nothing.

I might suggest that Sherwood,and those he brought in ,gained employment because they were willing to accept a very low wage.Mr Lerner having to pay out big compensation to Mr Lambert is making quite sure he doesn't get stung again!

[Clampy]

Got back in just before midnight. It was a heck of a long journey.

I thought we were better than we have been, as in we actually created chances. I think a win would do the confidence a world of good. The other results went for us so nothing's really changed really other than it's a game less. It's just a case of keeping the faith.