The Plot to Escape Relegation Thread 2015.

[Musicmaan]

...we just need to rely on them being shitter than us.

Ah well... 😞

[Toronto Villa]

I doubt it. Finishing say, 9th, with Stoke probably will give him pride. It won't matter to him where Villa are in the league.

That's a fair point. I'll get me coat...

on the whole pros don't have loyalty like we have to our clubs and neither are they that bothered about what happens around them as long as they aren't affect personally or more specifically financially. Not saying over time pros don't develop an affinity for a certain city or team, but thats generally revealed once they retire. Fans live and breathe it so if Villa went downI'm sure some Newcastle fans would love it especially if they beat us and it helped along the way. The players, most foreign in that team are paying their win bonuses.

[Clampy]

There's a big difference between a bunch players playing a club a few divisions higher in a cup competition and if they win it will be a high point of their career, and the players and manager of Swansea loving seeing the Villa relegated.

You don't think it would give Mark Hughes (for example) any personal or professional pride to comfortably keep Stoke in the division and watch someone like Villa go down?

No. As long as he does he does a good job with Stoke, he probably dosen't care who goes down.

[Nastylee]

If we are still winless come Tuesday night that'll be three of the winnable games gone. Hopes of a Sherwood renaissance will be extinguished and the maps to unvisited grounds will need downloading.

[kippaxvilla2]

It's not going to work this season is it.

[Malandro]

three teams shitter than us. It might just be possible.

[David_Nab]

If we are still winless come Tuesday night that'll be three of the winnable games gone. Hopes of a Sherwood renaissance will be extinguished and the maps to unvisited grounds will need downloading.

Agreed ..

Not sure he was right man for the job and it's not looking good so far.

[Le Lapin]

We had better hope that there are three worse teams than us and we somehow pick a draw here and there.  We are down if not. Terrible team. Mentally brittle.  The likes of Gabby need to be sold. Not good enough for a good few seasons. He's has flattered to decieve since he broke into the team. The likes of Gabby should be setting an example of how much this club means to him.

[Villa in Denmark]

We had better hope that there are three worse teams than us and we somehow pick a draw here and there.  We are down if not. Terrible team. Mentally brittle.  The likes of Gabby need to be sold. Not good enough for a good few seasons. He's has flattered to decieve since he broke into the team. The likes of Gabby should be setting an example of how much this club means to him.

What makes you think he isn't showing us exactly what it means to him.

He was fine whilst all was going well under MON, since when every time we've needed players like him to step up and show what they can do when it matters he goes missing.  It's no coincidence that the more trouble we're in the worse his performances get.  Mentally brittle and too interested in the paycheck, like too many of this squad.

[itbrvilla]

three teams shitter than us. It might just be possible.

Really? Who?

[Deano's Mullet]

The end of season DVD will be interesting the season, it will probably only be about 20 mins long and have the usual propaganda on the cover of how we bravely fought to avoid the drop and how the signs are encouraging for the future.honestly, I can't remember a more desperate season as a villa fan. Even with relegation battles before there were some highlights and even goals. These players have given up already.

[curiousorange]

I don't think we'll get out of it now, but what's frustrating is how easy it all looks from a Villa point of view. I'm not saying two wins would be enough, but imagine winning the next two matches with teams around us losing? Things in the garden would look very rosy indeed.

[Toronto Villa]

It stops this week. We will beat West Brom and start our recovery.

[curiousorange]

We need a win. I don't think solitary points will be enough. I don't mind losing the odd game that we ought to lose on paper, but a win - any win - is imperative.

Fuck it, I'm off to the cathedral to light a candle tomorrow.

[itbrvilla]

Don't fancy our chances if it comes down to final game.