Gabby

[PeterWithesShin]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

No he didn't. 19 in the league, plus 8 in the cups. Worth mentioning as well it was Division 2.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I've given Gabby plenty of stick the last few years as I think he's underachieved and looked like he's staying firmly in a comfort zone, but i'd never say he has never been good for us.

One thing that rarely gets a mention in his defence is the number of shit managers/coaches he's worked with since breaking into the first team squad. Is it any wonder a kid that came into the game late doesn't have the best technical ability.

Late? he's been with us since he was 8 and made his debut at 19, you've lost me there TSOV.

I thought he was a late starter as a kid? More interested in athletics than football. Never knew he'd with us since he was with us as an 8 year old. The part about only working with technically clueless managers/coaches still stands. A few months with Houllier was as good as it got.

[frank black]

To me he's been used to being one of the first names on the team sheet. Past managers have picked him based upon a lack of quality alternatives and the classic "he's got pace, defenders hate pace" statement. He's either on his game or not, very inconsistent and you can usually tell within the first few minutes of a game if he's up for it.

If Sherwood can get into his head, then I'm sure he will get us of our seats again. Infuriating though isn't he.

[silhillvilla]

Must admit I thought he was about 17 on his debut at Everton ?

[PeterWithesShin]

Must admit I thought he was about 17 on his debut at Everton ?

Nope, 19.

Paul Hardcastle wrote a song about it.

[bill]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

No he didn't. 19 in the league, plus 8 in the cups. Worth mentioning as well it was Division 2.

Ah 27, is that all.My apologies. It was a long time ago. We had two 20+ goal men that season, and second division or not, it was a joy to watch.

[Percy McCarthy]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

Wasn't that in the second division though?

Yes, and I think he maybe exaggerating again.

[Percy McCarthy]

Bill, did you see him play in two times of the last three times we've won at Arsenal and how he virtually single-handedly destroyed them? Do you not think there's something in that that suggests he might be worth a place in the Cup Final team?

[SheffieldVillain]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

As another example, Thierry Henry was mostly played on the wing rather than centre forward before going to Arsenal. He had never scored more than 9 league goals in a season. In his first season at Arsenal he got 17.  Of course being played on the wing rather than in the middle affects goal totals.

[Percy McCarthy]

Never Any Good I

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2khiW7-9Lsc

Never Any Good II

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hmLcwsHEh24

[peter w]

The Shit away 2-1 - just after clearing off the line

The Shit away 1-0 - another lovely headed late winner

man U away 1-0

Liverpool away this season until injured (actually that was last season but also scored in the 1-0 win)

norwich away 2-1 two seasons ago

Shit at home 1-0 - brought down for Milner's pen

...there are plenty examples of him playing well and contributing even without scoring. Norwich at home 3-2, away at Chelsea 1-2 just spring to mind.

[Percy McCarthy]

Found this one as well, some nice Brummie memories set to a killer Brummie tune:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEGqUwKRbmE

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

I think if someone doesn't rate Gabby at the levels Bill doesn't, theres no point in trying to change his mind.. He was absolutely superb in March

He should have finished his chance on sat, but he's been out a while and it was his first opportunity, cut him some slack

He's a different option to N'Zogbia, N'Zogbia's better infront of the defence, where as Gabbys superior on the shoulder and obviously in front of goal

[silhillvilla]

Must admit I thought he was about 17 on his debut at Everton ?

Nope, 19.

Paul Hardcastle wrote a song about it.

Ss Ss Ss Ss Ss Ss Ss Ss Seventeen . That one ?

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

Found this one as well, some nice Brummie memories set to a killer Brummie tune:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEGqUwKRbmE

My word, what a throwback those goals were.. i was at the 2008/9 Arsenal away win too

Gabby Agbonlahor.. what a geezer