Hull City v Aston Villa Post-Shambles Thread

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'd take Weimann ahead of Agbonlahor at present on the basis that he runs about aimlessly, never looking likely to score, whereas Gabby walks about aimlessly, never looking likely to score.

Would you swap him for a Benteke who jumps about aimlessly, never looking likely to score?

[OCD]

I watched it in the pub. I've no idea who the co-commentator was but he was absolutely slaughtering us at times. He was right as well, we were awful.

Indeed, I cant help you with who it was, other than the clues were that he was a striker in his playing days,but his observations on our lack of movement and desire were spot on.

At the very least they've got to appoint an Assistant Manager who used to be a forward and understands forward play and movement. Someone like Dean Saunders for instance.

Gabby and Andi already know how to run about aimlessly out wide with their tongues hanging out!

I lost count of the number of times the co-commentator said our forward players were just standing there, no-one coming toward the ball, all standing close to eachother and not getting into the box. Whilst you would expect Premier League players to be better than that, you've also got to point to the coaching staff. None of them were forwards or even attacking players. Lambert was obviously a holding midfielder, Scott Marshall was a central defender and I think Andy Marshall was too though I don't remember the last 2.

[PeterWithe]

Mine are horsehair.

[john2710]

Its a bit mind boggling to think that blokes sitting around in their underpants posting on the internet understand that Premier League forwards need to move about a bit but professional teams need to pay millions to the 'right' people to be told the same thing.

Or in our case, millions to the wrong people not to be told.

[cdbearsfan]

bitches!

Have you been watching Breaking Bad again?

[rob_bridge]

I watched it in the pub. I've no idea who the co-commentator was but he was absolutely slaughtering us at times. He was right as well, we were awful.

Indeed, I cant help you with who it was, other than the clues were that he was a striker in his playing days,but his observations on our lack of movement and desire where spot on.

Gary Birtles

A limited player who won 2 European Cups through hard work and exceptional management.

[OCD]

I watched it in the pub. I've no idea who the co-commentator was but he was absolutely slaughtering us at times. He was right as well, we were awful.

Indeed, I cant help you with who it was, other than the clues were that he was a striker in his playing days,but his observations on our lack of movement and desire were spot on.

At the very least they've got to appoint an Assistant Manager who used to be a forward and understands forward play and movement. Someone like Dean Saunders for instance.

I think the time for tinkering with coaching staff has gone. We need a change of manager. Although your wild and crazy idea of actually having an assistant manager might be worth considering. It might even catch on.

I agree but the post comes with knowing that Lambert won't be sacked and won't resign.

[PeterWithesShin]

bitches!

Have you been watching Breaking Bad again?

Fo sho!

[OCD]

I watched it in the pub. I've no idea who the co-commentator was but he was absolutely slaughtering us at times. He was right as well, we were awful.

Indeed, I cant help you with who it was, other than the clues were that he was a striker in his playing days,but his observations on our lack of movement and desire were spot on.

At the very least they've got to appoint an Assistant Manager who used to be a forward and understands forward play and movement. Someone like Dean Saunders for instance.

Saunders took over at Crawley from JG who has had heart surgery. They are bottom 3.

He was an example and presumably he would still jump at the chance. Where Crawley are doesn't really matter since the point was about bringing in an assistant manager who understands forward play.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Forgot to mention, top respect to the 1,500 fans that traveled up there, especially the chaps with the 'Lambert Out' banner.

You all deserve a hell of a lot better.

[silhillvilla]

Wasn't Andy Marshall our 3rd choice keeper or did I just dream that one up

[dave.woodhall]

You don't have to have a manager/assistant/coach who was a forward. BFR was never more than a very limited wing-half (ask your dad) but style-wise his teams were as good as it got.

[john2710]

Managing Aston Villa is a death sentence to anyone's career, who the fuck, other than the very desparate, would want it?

[cdward]

From the OS.
Paul Lambert has told his players they must treat every game as a cup final from now until the end of the season as they look to bounce back from the defeat at Hull.

Lambert described the dressing room as "flat as you'll probably get it" after the 2-0 loss to the Tigers on Tuesday.

Villa are currently in the bottom three in the Barclays Premier League but Lambert has called on his players to fight with everything they've got to power away from the drop zone between now and the end of the current campaign.

Lambert is confident his players will climb the table but reiterated the need for character in the final run-in.

He said: "I probably can't describe how low we're feeling right now. As a group we're down.

"I just told them we've got thirteen cup finals and we have to win these cup finals that are coming our way.

"There will be a few other teams that'll be fighting with you to stay in this league.

"You have to make sure you're out of that bottom three.

"I've just said to the lads there are two ways you can go about it. You can meet it head on or you buckle under it. And you make sure you don't buckle for your own career.

"You've got to go into the next game and win it. You can't feel sorry for yourself.

"You've got to pick yourself up and you've got to go again.

"This football club is a great football club. It's huge. The supporters will expect a reaction. They have the biggest thirteen games of their careers coming up.

"I still believe, 100%. I still believe that the football club will be fine.

"There are good players in the dressing room. There's no two ways about.

"We're just missing that little bit in the final third. We have thirteen cup finals on our hands, that's the big thing. But I still believe 100% that Villa will be fine.

"Everyone will have to show character. From me right down, big players always rise to it anyway.

"This will be a test for everybody but, as I said to them, a lot of teams are going to be there with you. That's going to happen so you have to be ready for it.

"We have got to win ugly now. This is not the time for playing pretty football. No matter how you do it, you have to win.

"We try to play the game the right way. Now you have to win ugly to get points.

"I have no doubt we have enough leaders. There are big characters in the dressing room to see it through."

Lambert lamented the manner of the Tigers goals as he spoke to the press after the final whistle.

He added: "The first goal was really disappointing as we were on top and started the game really well. The ball has travelled 60 or 70 yards from their goalkeeper.

"We never dealt with it. That goal gives their stadium a lift.

"We're chasing the game from there.

"Even the second goal is a short free-kick that went into the box and we never dealt with that particularly well.

"We had enough of the ball to do better than we did in the last third.

"If you look at the players we had on the pitch, we had Gabby Agbonlahor, Carles Gil, Joe Cole - you've got so many options attacking-wise.

"Tonight it didn't go for us but we went with an attacking line-up.

"That's not just labelled at the forward lads. Collectively as a group we never did enough."

[cdbearsfan]

I'd take Weimann ahead of Agbonlahor at present on the basis that he runs about aimlessly, never looking likely to score, whereas Gabby walks about aimlessly, never looking likely to score.

Would you swap him for a Benteke who jumps about aimlessly, never looking likely to score?

I don't think that's fair. Benteke doesn't really jump these days.

I'd be tempted to stick with Benteke on the basis that, at best, if he got back to playing at the peak of his powers, he's potentially one of the best players in the league. If Weimann and/or Agbonlahor were to play at the very optimum level of their abilities, they'd still be, just, sort of... okayish, I suppose.

Plus the thought that Benteke has undergone a Torresian metamorphosis from unstoppable, megastar, goal-machine striker to utter shite, never to return, is just too depressing and I refuse even to consider the possibility.

He'll come good. He has to. Or any slim possibility of survival ceases to exist.