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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #345 on: January 20, 2015, 01:23:04 PM »
Laudrup for me.. but then again, I wanted lambert.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #346 on: January 20, 2015, 02:01:58 PM »
I wonder what change him as a manager is it Randy Lerner ?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #347 on: January 20, 2015, 02:15:57 PM »
Just watched Pulis being interviewed on Sky and can't help thinking that we've missed a huge trick there. I love the way that he gives a real honest appraisal of his team's performances and highlights exactly what they need to improve on. He's almost the anti-Lambert in that sense.

They had two shots, none of which were on target. We haven't missed out on anything.

They also conceded 3 less goals than we did on our trip to Goodison.
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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #348 on: January 20, 2015, 02:54:30 PM »
We have a good defensive record anyway, I am just curious why you want to swap a manager who cannot get his teams to create and score for another, who has a reputation for playing as equally mindnumbingly bleak football.

 

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #349 on: January 20, 2015, 02:57:04 PM »
Unless Sean Dyche learns how to clear his throat before speaking it's a no from me. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #350 on: January 20, 2015, 03:01:11 PM »
Unless Sean Dyche learns how to clear his throat before speaking it's a no from me. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

I don't want that to be a stick to beat him with once it all goes shit shaped. That the players can't understand him or that his voice is annoying as to why we are not winning games or playing well.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #351 on: January 20, 2015, 03:21:49 PM »
We have a good defensive record anyway, I am just curious why you want to swap a manager who cannot get his teams to create and score for another, who has a reputation for playing as equally mindnumbingly bleak football.

 

It's more about wanting to swap a Manager who has shown no signs of being able to effectively coach or set-up a team in 3 years for one who seems to specialise in it.  And about swapping a Manager who has never coherently acknowledged any of his teams' failings or spoken about specific improvements with any substance in any media interview I've ever heard him give to one who does just that.

In terms of entertainment, you can't rate Pulis on last night. He's gone in to WBA with the immediate intention of making them hard to beat, which he seems to have done.

We're talking about a Manager who recorded a 42.86% win-percentage at Crystal Palace. That's Crystal Palace. In the Premiership. He may be route-one at times, but I'd take that kind of "mind-numbing bleakness" over Lambert any day of the week.
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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #352 on: January 20, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
Which is why it is incorrect when people criticise the board for making a bad hire in Lambert. He wasn't. He was the manager that many people wanted because he ticked many, if not all of the boxes. Progressive, aggressive, liked attacking football, not afraid tactically, clever in the market especially on a restricted budget. He was going to come in, be the anti McLeish and astutely take on the big boys while stabilization is over the long term.

That he has gone away from so much of what made him the manager we all wanted in the first place goes beyond disappointing.
Which is what most of us probably struggle to understand about him - and why we've been so patient?
His Norwich teams, full of players we'd never heard of, always seemed to be well set up and always looked threatening when they played at VP and elsewhere - fast, incisive movement and passing, and scoring some really well-made goals.
WTF happened?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #353 on: January 20, 2015, 03:40:59 PM »
Which is why it is incorrect when people criticise the board for making a bad hire in Lambert. He wasn't. He was the manager that many people wanted because he ticked many, if not all of the boxes. Progressive, aggressive, liked attacking football, not afraid tactically, clever in the market especially on a restricted budget. He was going to come in, be the anti McLeish and astutely take on the big boys while stabilization is over the long term.
That he has gone away from so much of what made him the manager we all wanted in the first place goes beyond disappointing.
Which is what most of us probably struggle to understand about him - and why we've been so patient?
His Norwich teams, full of players we'd never heard of, always seemed to be well set up and always looked threatening when they played at VP and elsewhere - fast, incisive movement and passing, and scoring some really well-made goals.
WTF happened?
Agree with all of this, however this discussion might as well be closed now and resurrected in 3.5 years time as he'll still be here then unless we are sold and the new owner wants a change.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #354 on: January 20, 2015, 04:16:55 PM »
We have a good defensive record anyway, I am just curious why you want to swap a manager who cannot get his teams to create and score for another, who has a reputation for playing as equally mindnumbingly bleak football.

 

It's more about wanting to swap a Manager who has shown no signs of being able to effectively coach or set-up a team in 3 years for one who seems to specialise in it.  And about swapping a Manager who has never coherently acknowledged any of his teams' failings or spoken about specific improvements with any substance in any media interview I've ever hear him give to one how does just that.

In terms of entertainment, yu can't rate Pulis on last night. He's gone in to WBA with the immediate intention of making them hard to beat, which he seems to have done.

We're talking about a Manager who recorded a 42.86% win-percentage at Crystal Palace. That's Crystal palace. In the Premiership. He may be route-one at times, but I'd take that kind of "mind-numbing bleakness" over Lambert any day of the week.

I'm not rating Pulis on last night, I rate him on the basis of £100 million spent at Stoke in the creation of the worst football side I have ever seen.

There have been far less effective teams at getting results, but they were by far and away the most awful.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #355 on: January 20, 2015, 04:40:31 PM »
I think if some people would have been receptive to Pulis, it's because they've concluded that if we're going to be forced to watch this mind-numbingly shit football, we might as well appoint someone who can do it properly, and who is more likely to have us sitting comfortably in mid-table and not looking nervously over our shoulders until the end of April.

All of which is predicated on the strange assumption that Villa, for some reason, are obligated to play crap, uninspiring football.

It's like we're the victims of some weird football Stockholm syndrome.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #356 on: January 20, 2015, 05:16:04 PM »
We have a good defensive record anyway, I am just curious why you want to swap a manager who cannot get his teams to create and score for another, who has a reputation for playing as equally mindnumbingly bleak football.

 

It's more about wanting to swap a Manager who has shown no signs of being able to effectively coach or set-up a team in 3 years for one who seems to specialise in it.  And about swapping a Manager who has never coherently acknowledged any of his teams' failings or spoken about specific improvements with any substance in any media interview I've ever hear him give to one how does just that.

In terms of entertainment, yu can't rate Pulis on last night. He's gone in to WBA with the immediate intention of making them hard to beat, which he seems to have done.

We're talking about a Manager who recorded a 42.86% win-percentage at Crystal Palace. That's Crystal palace. In the Premiership. He may be route-one at times, but I'd take that kind of "mind-numbing bleakness" over Lambert any day of the week.

I'm not rating Pulis on last night, I rate him on the basis of £100 million spent at Stoke in the creation of the worst football side I have ever seen.

There have been far less effective teams at getting results, but they were by far and away the most awful.

£100 million spent over how many years though? Stoke were nowhere near the top of the big-spending list during his time there and what he achieved with them was nothing short of superb. His Palace side played some really good football during their great escape too.

I see him as a pragmatist. You see him as the purveyor of "the worst football  side you'v ever seen." Like Lambert seems to, you're failing to recognise that football's basic premise is to stick the ball in the back of the opponent's net.

He's a manager who finds a way for his teams to finish as high up the table as they possibly can, and that's why I'd take him over Lambert in a heartbeat.
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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #357 on: January 20, 2015, 05:18:09 PM »
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Offline eric woolban woolban

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #358 on: January 20, 2015, 05:24:10 PM »
A jar of marmalade or a house brick would be a viable alternative to Paul Lambert.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #359 on: January 20, 2015, 11:53:23 PM »
Unless Sean Dyche learns how to clear his throat before speaking it's a no from me. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

I don't want that to be a stick to beat him with once it all goes shit shaped. That the players can't understand him or that his voice is annoying as to why we are not winning games or playing well.

Maybe we should employ a mute manager ? Fluent in sign language of course. It might help said mute that he were deaf too ? No offence to any mute or deaf people reading this.

Or maybe this guy ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henk_ten_Cate

 


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