The Cricket Thread 2016

[Villan For Life]

There's no need to panic just yet, we do bat very deep and don't judge the match until both sides have batted.

However there is a chance our lower-middle order won't bail us out so it's an important few hours for England.

Just poor from the top order again though. It is becoming the exception when they do well.

Vince got a good ball, but the other 3 got themselves out again.

The run rate before the first wicket went down was pretty healthy. Why do they have to go at over 4 an hour in the first session of the first innings of a test match? I realise that the modern trend is to go after runs but 50-0 is much better than 80-odd for 4. Build a platform FFS!

Yep, I can't help but think there is an unearned arrogance with some of the batsmen

I think it's partly the influence of an Aussie coach and also a generation of players who were schooled in T20 and will play shots regardless.

Imagine a Boycott or a Tavare playing today? There's no way they'd be the steady accumulators that they were.

[PGW]

Don't worry we'll just have to come from 200 behind to win this one*

*Tongue firmly in cheek

[ADVILLAFAN]

We were about 68/1 and collapsed to about 77/4.

Keeping up on Cricinfo at work.

*checks weather forecast for London and does a rain dance*

[taylorsworkrate]

Another fucking wicket

[taylorsworkrate]

Has to be way too high

[Villan For Life]

Balance really struggles against pace. Riaz has been bowling some balls at 90+ MPH and Balance is pinned back in his crease and is a wicket waiting to fall. His head is in the wrong position and his footwork very leaden.

He looked better at Edgbaston where Riaz wasn't playing so no bowler was getting anywhere near 90MPH. Pakistan are doing to him what the Aussies and the Kiwis did to him last year and those faults remain.

[taylorsworkrate]

Pakistan only bowled 24 overs in the 1st session. That's a disgrace.

The only punishment that will alter over rates is penalty runs. It needs to happen and it needs to be harsh. The spectators are consistently being robbed when the full amount of overs aren't bowled

[Dr Butler]

Pakistan only bowled 24 overs in the 1st session. That's a disgrace.

The only punishment that will alter over rates is penalty runs. It needs to happen and it needs to be harsh. The spectators are consistently being robbed when the full amount of overs aren't bowled

if the weather is good and the lights can be used why can't they makes them bowl the 90 overs in a day ? I know they may finish at 7pm or later but where is the problem with that ?

UTV
The Doc

[spangley1812]

Pakistan only bowled 24 overs in the 1st session. That's a disgrace.

The only punishment that will alter over rates is penalty runs. It needs to happen and it needs to be harsh. The spectators are consistently being robbed when the full amount of overs aren't bowled

and banning the captain from the next test, no warnings,excuses

[taylorsworkrate]

Pakistan only bowled 24 overs in the 1st session. That's a disgrace.

The only punishment that will alter over rates is penalty runs. It needs to happen and it needs to be harsh. The spectators are consistently being robbed when the full amount of overs aren't bowled

if the weather is good and the lights can be used why can't they makes them bowl the 90 overs in a day ? I know they may finish at 7pm or later but where is the problem with that ?

UTV
The Doc

I agree, it is ridiculous to have the set cut off point. When the sun is still shining and they walk off with only 85 overs bowled it's a slap in the face to the people who have paid a not insignificant amount of money

[Villafirst]

Vince failed again. He"s not good enough ffs! Another Adam Lyth.

[taylorsworkrate]

Vince failed again. He"s not good enough ffs! Another Adam Lyth.

I think Vince has much more talent than Lyth. His mindset has been largely wrong in the series, where he has felt he needs to score quickly and has invariably got out playing an expansive shot.

I think James Taylor's unfortunate retirement has created a huge hole. Especially when we play in the subcontinent, where he would have been an excellent player of spin.

[paul_e]

I don't think it's fair to criticise Vince today, the ball that got him was a beauty, feel a little for Hales as well, not because the catch was dubious but because it was one that turned big and then went further off the bounce from a pretty full length, getting it away was a decent effort so going to a catch like he did after doing well is pretty galling.

[Villan For Life]

Vince failed again. He"s not good enough ffs! Another Adam Lyth.

I think Vince has much more talent than Lyth. His mindset has been largely wrong in the series, where he has felt he needs to score quickly and has invariably got out playing an expansive shot.

I think James Taylor's unfortunate retirement has created a huge hole. Especially when we play in the subcontinent, where he would have been an excellent player of spin.

I agree, Vince like Hales has the making of a good test batsman. Both of them just need a decent score to cement their places in the side. I'm still not convinced about Balance though, whose frailty against genuinely fast bowling is clear to see.

[taylorsworkrate]

Vince failed again. He"s not good enough ffs! Another Adam Lyth.

I think Vince has much more talent than Lyth. His mindset has been largely wrong in the series, where he has felt he needs to score quickly and has invariably got out playing an expansive shot.

I think James Taylor's unfortunate retirement has created a huge hole. Especially when we play in the subcontinent, where he would have been an excellent player of spin.

I agree, Vince like Hales has the making of a good test batsman. Both of them just need a decent score to cement their places in the side. I'm still not convinced about Balance though, whose frailty against genuinely fast bowling is clear to see.

Yeah. Ballance will probably do well in India if selected, but against good fast bowling he looks at sea. He doesn't appear to watch the ball