Burnley v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[brian green]

It is very odd that we have had two Scottish managers back to back whose worst vices have been absolutely identical.  Set up not to lose and if we get lucky nick a goal and hang on for the one nil.   If you had been in suspended animation for the last two and a half years and you saw that game you would not have believed that McLeish had left.

[Ads]

What I don't understand with that is we all knew what McLiesh was about. The negative football from Lambert isn't what impressed people during his spell at Norwich.

[pbavfckuwait]

I think most people saw an improvement in the first half, may have been a couple of reasons, (a) How poor Burnley are, or (b) a show of relief from the players that Keane had gone.
If it was (b) that makes you wonder what exactly has Lambert been doing, let me try to explain that a bit more.
Cole starting showed a change from the tried, tested and failed of the last 8 matches, may not have wanted Cole, but someone in that area that was more creative than N'Zog, then the substitution of Grealish for Cole when as expected Cole was blowing through his arse, was one we have been crying out for him to make, his other substitutions a bit muuaarrggh.
If this is what he wants but has not been getting, then surely he has to have the balls and the gumption to address it with his training staff, this time Keane, last time the other two muppets, to me it just shows a very weak man, who is not strong enough to stand up to his and I repeat his staff and direct them in a style of play, that best suits the available pool of talent he has at his disposal.
Or (a) it may have been Burnley are just crap, either way it shows the man is not up to managing Aston Villa, as he still could not get 3 points.

[brian green]

I think he has been obliged to reinvent himself as a cap doffing yes man to hang on to his job.   He ruled the roost at Norwich I imagine.  At VP he rides to orders.

[pbavfckuwait]

That is a bit of what I am suggesting above Brian, he just seems to let other people make the decisions for him and even if they are making them incorrectly appears to do nothing about correcting it.

[silhillvilla]

We had 53% possession 7 shots on target and 5 corners so let's cling to this as a sign of improvement . We are unbeaten in 3 and have benteke back .
When is vlaar and Senderos back ?
Any news on Clark injury ?

[peter w]

As an aside to the game - massive respect for Danny Ings. There's a piece in today's Independent about how he was so inspired by the look of pure joy on a disabled lad's face when he gave the lad his match boots last year that he's set up a self-funded charitable foundation to help schools specialising in special educational needs. He's also led on the formation of Burnley's first adult disability football team. Just goes to show not all footballers are self absorbed arses

Nice, but I still don't like him.

What I like is that he's called Danny Ings. It's like a Durrell's Palace type signing in Roy of The Rovers who accidentally ends up at the club and then scores a hatful. Beautiful comic book name.

[Gregorys Boy]

Based on the little I have seen of the game then I would say it was a more postive attacking performance at least in the first half.  There is always a danger that if we don't get a second goal then we are the sort of team who will sit back and try to protect the lead the later the match draws on which I think against a team like Burnley was the wrong tactic.  Once again we just lacked a bit of cutting edge, and got a little sloppy at the back.  But I don't think it was a penalty it looked 50-50 to me.  Once again it is a blow to not see the game out for that all important win and not puts more pressure on for Tuesday.

[ChicagoLion]

Based on the little I have seen of the game then I would say it was a more postive attacking performance at least in the first half.  There is always a danger that if we don't get a second goal then we are the sort of team who will sit back and try to protect the lead the later the match draws on which I think against a team like Burnley was the wrong tactic.  Once again we just lacked a bit of cutting edge, and got a little sloppy at the back.  But I don't think it was a penalty it looked 50-50 to me.  Once again it is a blow to not see the game out for that all important win and not puts more pressure on for Tuesday.

It was a blatant foul and definite penalty.

[Gregorys Boy]

Based on the little I have seen of the game then I would say it was a more postive attacking performance at least in the first half.  There is always a danger that if we don't get a second goal then we are the sort of team who will sit back and try to protect the lead the later the match draws on which I think against a team like Burnley was the wrong tactic.  Once again we just lacked a bit of cutting edge, and got a little sloppy at the back.  But I don't think it was a penalty it looked 50-50 to me.  Once again it is a blow to not see the game out for that all important win and not puts more pressure on for Tuesday.

It was a blatant foul and definite penalty.

Oddly enough they didn't discuss the decission on MOTD.  I just didn't think there was much in it.  Not saying the player dived, just that it was more of a coming together than anything.  I will take another look though.

[ChicagoLion]

Based on the little I have seen of the game then I would say it was a more postive attacking performance at least in the first half.  There is always a danger that if we don't get a second goal then we are the sort of team who will sit back and try to protect the lead the later the match draws on which I think against a team like Burnley was the wrong tactic.  Once again we just lacked a bit of cutting edge, and got a little sloppy at the back.  But I don't think it was a penalty it looked 50-50 to me.  Once again it is a blow to not see the game out for that all important win and not puts more pressure on for Tuesday.

It was a blatant foul and definite penalty.

They showed several replays over here and it was pretty clear that Okore was the wrong side of the lumbering giant and pulled him down.

Oddly enough they didn't discuss the decission on MOTD.  I just didn't think there was much in it.  Not saying the player dived, just that it was more of a coming together than anything.  I will take another look though.

[peter w]

I don't think he pulled him down but as they had a coming together and started to fall, Okore's arms were on him. i don't think it caused the fall but what else could the referee do? penalty every time.

[Steve kirk]

In the Spurs, Southampton and Burnley games we all knew we would concede late on and its a terrible feeling knowing its 100% going to happen, Lambert in nearly two and a half years has proved to be a truly awful Villa manager, dont think I have ever felt so low in my 50 years of supporting my beloved club.

[CJ]

I thought it was a definite pen - I also think another ref may have shown Okore a red card as he was the last man

[Tayls_7]

I don't think he pulled him down but as they had a coming together and started to fall, Okore's arms were on him. i don't think it caused the fall but what else could the referee do? penalty every time.

It was a nailed on penalty but I don't blame Okore. Both he and Clark excelled once again. Cisshoko gave away possession sloppily when it was easier to find a team mate. Cole's first half performance was fantastic. I thought he was a busted flush. A few 60 minute performances like that from him and I'll be chuffed. We can't keep approaching the 2nd halves of games as we do but when you have so little possession it saps the legs. Gabby's game is always run long before the final whistle.