Roy Keane has left

[eamonn]

Were there rumours of a bust-up with Gabby (I know there was about him going round to Cleverleys house)? Interesting that he gets in a dig about Benteke and the strikers not being able to finish their dinners. Would be good if Chiles took him to task on Benteke and asked him why he thought he was so much better now but Adrian, like most presenters, are scared stiff of him.

[Steve R]

Keane is a prize tit and is breaking a moral if not contractual confidence by washing the club's dirty linen in public in order to sell a few books. Pondlife.

The point about Sherwood showing up at games is however a valid one. Particularly if, as it seems, he was there as a guest of Fox. One thing we have preserved through several seasons of shite football is our integrity. Having Sherwood watch on, effectively as a guest of the club, as Lambert struggled was an absolute disgrace. You would also have to question whether it contributed to the disastrous run of results that ended in Lambert being shown the door.

I do not like Fox at all.

[PeterWithesShin]

The last 21 league games under Lambert was W2 D6 L13 F8 A31 GD-23 Pts12. I don't think Sherwood was the problem somehow.

[Steve R]

The last 21 league games under Lambert was W2 D6 L13 F8 A31 GD-23 Pts12. I don't think Sherwood was the problem somehow.

I didn't say it was the problem, I said it may have contributed - and it may well have.

[ozzjim]

We all saw pictures of Sherwood with Fox in early December, but it was after Keane had gone and there was talk of him being the new DOF or assistant possibly. I agree, it is not a good way to go Steve.

However, Roy Keane knowing Sherwood was in line explains why he buggered off so quick, as he was doing just the same thing but sitting next to the guy he was looking to replace, nothing will convince me otherwise. He found out he was not likely to get it when Lambert was finally pushed, and walked away.

[PeterWithesShin]

The last 21 league games under Lambert was W2 D6 L13 F8 A31 GD-23 Pts12. I don't think Sherwood was the problem somehow.

I didn't say it was the problem, I said it may have contributed - and it may well have.

My point was that we'd gone to complete bobbins under Lambert long before Sherwood appeared on the scene so I don't think it made much, if any, difference to results as they were crap anyway.

After we beat Chelsea at home last season until he left, Lambert's league record was

PL34 W6 D8 L20 F19 A55 GD-36 Pts26

[ciggiesnbeer]

Keane is a prize tit and is breaking a moral if not contractual confidence by washing the club's dirty linen in public in order to sell a few books. Pondlife.

The point about Sherwood showing up at games is however a valid one. Particularly if, as it seems, he was there as a guest of Fox. One thing we have preserved through several seasons of shite football is our integrity. Having Sherwood watch on, effectively as a guest of the club, as Lambert struggled was an absolute disgrace. You would also have to question whether it contributed to the disastrous run of results that ended in Lambert being shown the door.

I do not like Fox at all.

I like Fox, but yes, that was a dick move. As a club we should be better than that. I still do not understand the point, to let Sherwood see the team? Well he could easily have watched some away games or have come to Villa park without it being so obvious. To put pressure on Lambert? Christ the bloke was crushed by that point anyway.

Fox made the right move in sacking Lambert and hiring Sherwood >but< bringing Sherwood to VP while Lambert was still employed was unnecessary.

[pbavfckuwait]

Couple of things missed here, it was Roy's mate who gave him the job who had made the players tired, the fans tired and all of us knew it would end in tears, what he does not say is what he attempted to do to turn that tiredness around and help his pal who had given him the job, probably as there is nothing he could say because he did naff all about it, accepted his cheque and the players all knew he would not stay around for long.

On the Sherwood thing, our integrity has been questioned or more importantly Fox's, we can not have it both ways, we moan when we do not play the game like alot of top clubs play it, much rather have a letter from Fergie in a frame. Fox identified a problem, sought to get that problem sorted and if we are to believe other press leaks Lambert had already said he wanted out, so what effect that had on him is surely minimal, Sherwood was not in the stand for most of the season, what was the reason for us being shite then.
No Villa could have played it with integrity and probably ended up doing what the Geordies have done, thank christ we have people on board now who will do what is for the best, not what appears to keep our integrity in tact while we struggle in the Championship.

[IAmTheOneIanOlney]

Having spoken to two people, on separate occasions, who worked in a similar capacity at Colchester while Lambert was there, both have stated Lambert was supremely arrogant and an unapproachable bully. The guy I met this week said no-one at the club can believe the way he comes across in the media in comparison to what he was actually like and you wouldn't find one person there with a good word to say about him. (Curiously, he said he'd worked with Gary Karsa for years and he was a decent guy).
This opinion of Lambert is borne out by his relationship with the local media when he was at Villa and Kendrick saying this week on Twitter that questions weren't allowed under Sherwood's predecessor.

So no wonder Keane likes him - and maybe Fox didn't, and just didn't care whether Lambert's feelings were hurt and preferred someone where what you actually see is what you actually get.

[LTA]

Fair to say we wouldn't be first club to line up another manager while the present one was still in situ.

[Malandro]

Fair to say we wouldn't be first club to line up another manager while the present one was still in situ.

The trick is not to do it like Newcastle

[Damo70]

Keane had to add a chapter for his 'updated' autobiography and we were the obvious subject for him. I suspect Tim Sherwood will have a more successful managerial career than Keane ever will.

[Ron Manager]

The only person he has a good word for (besides Lambert) is Benty . It would appear that Tim Sherwood's methods are working while Roy Keane's did not. Such is life. Things are going well at the moment lets hope they stay that way.

[KevinGage]

With Fox, his hands might have been tied on the Lamberk contract situation if that had largely been agreed in advance.

Being seen with Sherwood was one of the few things he could actually do to put a rocket up SM2's arse. 

As for Keane, I agree with ozzjim. I think he looked at the manager, his so called mate, on a sticky wicket (pre contract) and thought it might be his last chance to get the main job with a big club.

[Gerrin]

I'm actually starting to pity this bloke, I really admired him as a player, not eveyone's cup of tea I know. He's failed as a manager, said he would never become a pundit but did, and know he just takes everyone opportunity to spout off just to sell his books.

I hope Sherwood gets asked about him in his press conference this week, I'm sure he'll have a few little words to say with a grin.