Chelsea v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[kippaxvilla2]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

[Dave]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

I'm guessing that on the post-match thread of the 8-0 match you weren't saying "well, we may have got trounced but at least we kept pouring forward".

[PeterWithesShin]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

Maybe he is satisfied with how we performed as I doubt the players who were ill are going to be 100% right a week later? So in that context it wasn't a disaster.

[john e]

Fair enough, In context it's not so bad

[Ian.]

Thank you PWS for showing the whole interview. I agree with Lambert on this account of the game.

Also unless you have some amount of luck and maybe one extra special player who's on fire you won't beat Chelsea on their patch.

[SoccerHQ]

Two games in a row where we've effectively given up as soon as we've gone behind.  We're just far too negative and have been all season.

Let's see how many Hull lose by at Stamford Bridge. It was a meek 2-0 last season.

To be fair it being 0-3 down in 4 minutes takes the wind out of most team's sails I would have thought?

But Hull were 2 down today after 10 minutes.  Yes they did lose, but at least they came back and made a fight of it. Our attacking statistics are frighteningly bad and, if we had these stats under McLeish then people would be apoplectic - there just seems a resignation about accepting defeat at the moment. 

[kippaxvilla2]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

I'm guessing that on the post-match thread of the 8-0 match you weren't saying "well, we may have got trounced but at least we kept pouring forward".

I can't remember whether I commented (I probably did).  But in any event I can't see the point you're trying to make unless it is being suggested we poured forward with wave after wave of attacks in that game only to be picked off because I know I was getting steadily inebriated to numb the pain during it but I don't remember that happening.

[kippaxvilla2]

Thank you PWS for showing the whole interview. I agree with Lambert on this account of the game.

Also unless you have some amount of luck and maybe one extra special player who's on fire you won't beat Chelsea on their patch.

I showed what was on the skysports newspage at the time.  I'm not into editing.

[Lizz]

It was Chelski. A point would have been a bonus. I'm not slashing my wrists over it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

Maybe he is satisfied with how we performed as I doubt the players who were ill are going to be 100% right a week later? So in that context it wasn't a disaster.

Can understand that to a degree but the vibes from the club were that everyone was training fantastically from about Wednesday onwards.

[kippaxvilla2]

And I'm not saying we should be beating them  and im not slashing my wrists either.  But there's a difference between that and just sitting back and hoping for the best.

The start we've had has been great but there isn't anything to suggest that the same old tired tactics of last season ie sit back with less than 30pc possession and see if we can nick one are going to change.

Of course we may see a different approach when Benteke returns.  I do hope so.

[Dave]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

I'm guessing that on the post-match thread of the 8-0 match you weren't saying "well, we may have got trounced but at least we kept pouring forward".

I can't remember whether I commented (I probably did).  But in any event I can't see the point you're trying to make unless it is being suggested we poured forward with wave after wave of attacks in that game only to be picked off because I know I was getting steadily inebriated to numb the pain during it but I don't remember that happening.

We kept trying to push forward, leaving huge amounts of space behind us meaning that they were able to score four goals and miss a penalty in the last 15 minutes.

My point is that presumably what you mean is that you want us to have a 'good go' as long as it results in the 3-3, 4-4 type results, because when we try to push forward and get trounced nobody is any happier for the fact that we weren't just settling for a narrower defeat.

As per my original post, I can't imagine that had "we poured forward with wave after wave of attacks" today and lost 8-0 again, I'm absolutely certain that you (or indeed, anybody else) wouldn't have been using the post-match thread to praise our attitude.

[kippaxvilla2]

You can't be certain of anything I'd say.  It isn't just Chelsea where we adopt these uninspiring tactics though is it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Okay.  Lets draw a line under this one and next week in terms of tactics being adopted.  Lets see what we start doing after these games and when we have Benteke back. 

Funnily enough I do actually think we will sneak something next week.

[PeterWithesShin]

Did we really give a right good account of ourselves then?  Honestly I really don't know where you draw the line in the sand between being respectably beaten and accepting it or having a damn good go and may e getting trounced or maybe even sneaking something.  I'm talking games like the 4-4, the 3-3 etc.  We had better teams but we still weren't expected to beat Chelsea.

Maybe he is satisfied with how we performed as I doubt the players who were ill are going to be 100% right a week later? So in that context it wasn't a disaster.

Can understand that to a degree but the vibes from the club were that everyone was training fantastically from about Wednesday onwards.

I have no idea, pure educated guesswork by me.

Although if there were problems still I doubt he would publicly announce it. Mind games and all that.