Tom Cleverley loan watch

[Clampy]

He's like a crap version of Brett Holman.
At least Holman weighed in with some lovely goals .

You really should think before you post sometimes.

[silhillvilla]

Yeah, both of them.

2 is more than 0.

[Matt C]

Yes you're right. Let's re-sign Holman. Holt scored one also so maybe we can bring him in as well.

[silhillvilla]

Yes you're right. Let's re-sign Holman. Holt scored one also so maybe we can bring him in as well.

Did I say anything about re-signing him ?
I merely confirmed Holmann>Cleverley

[Matt C]

And I merely agreed with your brilliantly reasoned logic.

[eamonn]

So, if Martinez who was being held up as an example of what our managers should aspire to is now looking to buy a player who it has been decided is useless, does this mean that now he is now a rubbish manager?

Nah, he'd get Cleverley playing higher up the pitch where he's better.

[silhillvilla]

I've never rated Martinez . Was so glad he didn't come here .

[joe_c]

Well, sometimes in the dugout by myself
I look across the team sheet
And I think of the things, you could be doing
And in my head I paint a picture

'Cause since you've been on loan
well, Everybody's been depressed
you've missed your every shot
And your free kicks are a mess

can't your loan be over?
Stop makin a fool out of me
Why can't your loan be over Cleverly?
Cleverley, Clever-ley, Cleverley

I love a good sing song on the board. Excellent work.

[silhillvilla]

Well, sometimes in the dugout by myself
I look across the team sheet
And I think of the things, you could be doing
And in my head I paint a picture

'Cause since you've been on loan
well, Everybody's been depressed
you've missed your every shot
And your free kicks are a mess

can't your loan be over?
Stop makin a fool out of me
Why can't your loan be over Cleverly?
Cleverley, Clever-ley, Cleverley

I love a good sing song on the board. Excellent work.

Indeed. Superb

[ozzjim]

So, if Martinez who was being held up as an example of what our managers should aspire to is now looking to buy a player who it has been decided is useless, does this mean that now he is now a rubbish manager?

Nah, he'd get Cleverley playing higher up the pitch where he's better.

He has managed to make several Everton players look very, very average this season.

The second season a manager takes over a really solidly run, well drilled side is always a struggle. Next season will be interesting at Everton, whether they can move forward again or struggle. Struggle and Moyes looks significantly better and Martinez simply added flair and movement to the disciplined side Everton were already, and in time that erodes the longer Moyes has been gone. Interesting to watch though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I've never rated Martinez . Was so glad he didn't come here .

Who was it on here who used to fetishise him. Really, actually loved him. Used to go on about his smart shoes and stuff.

[silhillvilla]

I've never rated Martinez . Was so glad he didn't come here .

Who was it on here who used to fetishise him. Really, actually loved him. Used to go on about his smart shoes and stuff.

No. Not me.

[Monty]

One average season out of several rather good ones (by Wigan's standards) does not make Martinez a bad manager, any more than Dortmund absolutely sucking at the moment makes Klopp bad. He has made some inexplicable decisions this year, though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I've never rated Martinez . Was so glad he didn't come here .

Who was it on here who used to fetishise him. Really, actually loved him. Used to go on about his smart shoes and stuff.

No. Not me.

Wasn't implying it was you, btw, just chatting.

I remember who it was, now, it was that gun fantasist who used to go on about having a Glock under his bed, and how he only shagged "eight out of tens upwards".

Can't remember his name.

[Monty]

I've never rated Martinez . Was so glad he didn't come here .

Who was it on here who used to fetishise him. Really, actually loved him. Used to go on about his smart shoes and stuff.

No. Not me.

Wasn't implying it was you, btw, just chatting.

I remember who it was, now, it was that gun fantasist who used to go on about having a Glock under his bed, and how he only shagged "eight out of tens upwards".

Can't remember his name.

That was The Situation, that was. Didn't he also have a massive watch?