Tom Cleverley loan watch

[pauliewalnuts]

I wouldn't keep Cleverley.

I've seen pretty much nothing that suggests he's worth £8m.

Neither have I, but i'd still do a straight swap with Vlaar, who isn't worth £8m either.

I wouldn't.

I am not hugely bothered about losing Vlaar, but I don't think we really need Cleverley, and wouldn't even waste wage money on him.

[Malandro]

If we have to do a deal can we make it a double, vlaar for cleverly and van gaal for lambert

[saunders_heroes]

If we can steal £8m for Vlaar the take it and run. Don't do the exact same thing but in reverse and pay over the odds for Cleverley.

[Malandro]

Mr blobby in straight swap with Lerner could also work

[Tuscans]

He has been as bad for us as he was for Man.Utd. Give him back to United and we'll take Fletcher instead.

I definitely wouldn't take Fletcher. A bloke who is 31 soon and has made a total of about 30 league appearances in the last  three and a half years. At least at 25 there is a chance Cleverley will be an asset for a few years.

I meant to add give him back to Utd in January and take Fletcher for the remainder of the season. He'll give you a little more than the nothing Cleverley offers. I wouldn't take neither as a permanent signing....there's better out there in the hundreds of thousands of footballers on this planet.

[Tuscans]

Westwood mk2.
He's been average at best, mediocre for the most part. I don't think he's helped by our system though. There's potential for him to do well being pushed up to a number 10 sort of role, but Lambert seems to want to persist with the 4-3-2-1.

Would I pay 8 million? Nope.
I would trade him for Vlaar though in the faint hope he could come good. A better manager could get more out of someone like Cleverley, perhaps even Westwood too.

Sanchez has impressed me a lot more, even despite some of the frightening lapses in concentration.

Cleverley has played under a better manager, Sir Alex....didn't rip up trees then.

[FatSam]

His work rate is pretty good, but he is very wasteful with his passing. In summary I'd say that he's not a particularly talented footballer, and can see why he's surplus to requirements at Man U.

[supertom]

Westwood mk2.
He's been average at best, mediocre for the most part. I don't think he's helped by our system though. There's potential for him to do well being pushed up to a number 10 sort of role, but Lambert seems to want to persist with the 4-3-2-1.

Would I pay 8 million? Nope.
I would trade him for Vlaar though in the faint hope he could come good. A better manager could get more out of someone like Cleverley, perhaps even Westwood too.

Sanchez has impressed me a lot more, even despite some of the frightening lapses in concentration.

Cleverley has played under a better manager, Sir Alex....didn't rip up trees then.

True but he's not (makes me sick saying it) Utd level. He did well on loan at Wigan playing a little further forward.

He's an average midfielder in all honesty, but I don't see us buying too much better on current budget.

[PaulWinch again]

I thought his movement was very good yesterday.

[Dante Lavelli]

I'd imagine that Cleverly would refuse any deal in January as he'd get more cash personally if he was a free agent. 
Not sure which clubs would be queuing up to sign him based on his performances with us.

[Ads]

He hasn't looked creative enough for me. Far too similar to Westwood.

[Ron Manager]

He hasn't looked creative enough for me. Far too similar to Westwood.

We cant afford to be too fussy given our financial position. It looks as if we are stuck with Randy but he will be very tight with the purse strings. So yes I would take Cleverley for about 4 or 5mil purely on his work rate which is excellent. Never a top four player and not worth 8mil by any stretch of the imagination. Might score a goal or two if moved just behind the two main strikers though.

[Ads]

I just think that £4-5 million spent abroad would get us more quality.

[Dante Lavelli]

It must be said, that at 8m we must be close to being able to afford one of Spurs' many spare midfielders: Dembele? Paulinho?

[Ron Manager]

I just think that £4-5 million spent abroad would get us more quality.

Maybe. Lambert has done well with Sanchez.