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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1500 on: September 11, 2014, 11:22:55 PM »
There were some quotes from him on twitter earlier about being happy to sign a permanent deal if things go well, but have not seen them in any of the articles or interviews.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1501 on: September 11, 2014, 11:46:39 PM »
Not very well thought out

They didn't learn from the Stewart Downing episode then.

Or the Grant Holt episode, or the time they decided to publish #AVFC tweets on the OS.  And it's not just us, every footballer gets loads of abuse on Twitter Q&As, you'd think somebody somewhere would realise it's not a good idea.

That was brilliant. My sides have only just stopped hurting from laughing at that. Brilliant stuff.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1502 on: September 12, 2014, 01:57:07 AM »
It was Brian Doogan that tweeted it - TC said that if both sides can agree things permanently I want to make my career here. If he does well, I certainly hope he stays true to that baring in mind the comments of Martinez, who was waxing lyrical about how highly he rates him as one of the technically best midfielders in England today and that he would be looking to try and get him on a free next summer.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1503 on: September 12, 2014, 06:45:11 AM »
Not seen this uploaded anywhere, from last night's 5Live Sport.

Pat Murphy gives Cleverley a hard time over his transfer to Villa. Obviously Cleverley has been briefed by Villa's media advisors before the interview, but his 'story', that an agent can act without informing his client, just doesn't ring true. I think its fairly obviously that we were his second choice (or third if you include staying at United), but he's here now, so let's get behind him.

About 38:30 in...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gkvlt

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1504 on: September 12, 2014, 10:49:17 AM »
I thought he spoke very well - he won't be the first or last player who's career stalled at Newton Heath.

As said above , he's one of us now - good luck to him.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1505 on: September 12, 2014, 12:16:19 PM »
Not seen this uploaded anywhere, from last night's 5Live Sport.

Pat Murphy gives Cleverley a hard time over his transfer to Villa. Obviously Cleverley has been briefed by Villa's media advisors before the interview, but his 'story', that an agent can act without informing his client, just doesn't ring true. I think its fairly obviously that we were his second choice (or third if you include staying at United), but he's here now, so let's get behind him.

About 38:30 in...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gkvlt
I heard this last night - I thought Pat M was unnecessarily persistent about the issue of his signing. A bit pointless really.
The fact is: the kid's here, he'll knuckle down in order to prove ManUre wrong and - if played in the right position by PL - he may well do so. I can see him mirroring the good work Delph does, in a slightly different way. In fact, the MF options now look pretty good, I think, for a mid-to-upper placed Premiership side, as long as the management gets the playing-style and ethos right.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1506 on: September 12, 2014, 12:21:12 PM »
He's certainly going to be motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

Those Q&A's really need to be moderated i.e. the player only sees serious questions and the rest are ignored.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1507 on: September 12, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
Not seen this uploaded anywhere, from last night's 5Live Sport.

Pat Murphy gives Cleverley a hard time over his transfer to Villa. Obviously Cleverley has been briefed by Villa's media advisors before the interview, but his 'story', that an agent can act without informing his client, just doesn't ring true. I think its fairly obviously that we were his second choice (or third if you include staying at United), but he's here now, so let's get behind him.

About 38:30 in...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gkvlt

Pat Murphy tweeted something pretty sarcastic to the avfcofficial account the other day. They'd posted a pic of Cleverley "meeting the international media", and PM tweeted something implying that it might have been a good idea to get the domestic media in too, rather than what was probably just the in-house team.

That doesn't sound too sarcastic, but I can't remember the exact wording and can't be arsed to look, but the way he put it was undoubtedly sarcy.
I like Pat Murphy, he's old school and is a good journalist, but he above all the others seems to allow things to get to him, things which then get reflected in his coverage.

He never came to terms with the fact that Lerner would not talk to the media. I understand why journalists find that annoying as it makes their jobs harder. I also agreed with Murphy when he said that Lerner could be seen as having an implied "duty" to talk to the press as he was heading an institution which meant a great deal to a lot of people.

What I couldn't get over was the way he let that colour his reporting on the club for so long. I appreciate it is not the job of journalists to be cheer leaders for the club, and find it irritating when people start acting like it is, from time to time, but I do think Pat Murphy lets things annoy him far too much and this gets reflected in his reporting.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1508 on: September 12, 2014, 12:34:35 PM »
He's certainly going to be motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

Those Q&A's really need to be moderated i.e. the player only sees serious questions and the rest are ignored.

How do we know that's not what happened?

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1509 on: September 12, 2014, 12:47:25 PM »
I really am looking forward to the idea of Delph and Cleverley being a basis of our midfield with Sanchez tucked in behind. It is a definite step from KEA and Westwood, though Westwood has done ok so far this season. I think Cleverley has a point to prove, is an accurate passer and if his arrival continues us down the path of not hoofing it long all the time, then consider me a a big supporter of the direction we are seemingly taking.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1510 on: September 12, 2014, 12:50:56 PM »
Do people think he will start tomorrow or off bench ?

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1511 on: September 12, 2014, 12:54:14 PM »
Do people think he will start tomorrow or off bench ?

bench I reckon. I think we'll start with with Sanchez, Westwood and Delph.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1512 on: September 12, 2014, 01:07:32 PM »
I really am looking forward to the idea of Delph and Cleverley being a basis of our midfield with Sanchez tucked in behind. It is a definite step from KEA and Westwood, though Westwood has done ok so far this season. I think Cleverley has a point to prove, is an accurate passer and if his arrival continues us down the path of not hoofing it long all the time, then consider me a a big supporter of the direction we are seemingly taking.

It's got a great balance to it on paper.  Sanchez will be the player that will hopefully unlock the team's potential.  He is also the biggest unknown/risk.  Luckily, I think Westwood is the next in line and he naturally occupies the same areas of the pitch as Sanchez so he's not a bad Plan B (even though they're different types of player).

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1513 on: September 12, 2014, 02:52:29 PM »
He's certainly going to be motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

Those Q&A's really need to be moderated i.e. the player only sees serious questions and the rest are ignored.

How do we know that's not what happened?

That they're in the public domain still shows a poor job of handling it. From what I've seen of Twitter, you can only see a person's comments and replies so stupid questions that don't get replied to shouldn't be public.

Re: Sanchez - he's looked a little off the pace so far and I don't know whether he's been away in South America during internationals week and when he will have got back (if he has) so he might be on the bench again tomorrow. I think it will be Westwood-Cleverley-Delph. As such, it would be interesting to see where Richardson is used as he's done a good job so far.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1514 on: September 12, 2014, 05:58:42 PM »
He's certainly going to be motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

Those Q&A's really need to be moderated i.e. the player only sees serious questions and the rest are ignored.

How do we know that's not what happened?

That they're in the public domain still shows a poor job of handling it. From what I've seen of Twitter, you can only see a person's comments and replies so stupid questions that don't get replied to shouldn't be public.

Re: Sanchez - he's looked a little off the pace so far and I don't know whether he's been away in South America during internationals week and when he will have got back (if he has) so he might be on the bench again tomorrow. I think it will be Westwood-Cleverley-Delph. As such, it would be interesting to see where Richardson is used as he's done a good job so far.
I reckon we'll sacrifice N'Zog for this game, and push Richardson out wide as he'd more disciplined and can defend from the front.

 


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