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Offline Monty

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1215 on: September 02, 2014, 06:48:54 PM »
Option to buy? Very nice.

He replaces/challenges Westwood in my opinion.

His contract at United is out at the end of the year. And I hope he'll play further forward than Westwood, who is very much a Carrick-type, because it was this attempt to turn him into a Carrick which appears to have stifled him at United.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1216 on: September 02, 2014, 06:52:19 PM »
It amazes me that people can continue to be so abusive about the lad even after he has chosen to sign for us, Aston Villa, with this one fact being the only the thing we know for sure.

Don't get me wrong, I was there at 11:05 last night uttering various insults about his money-grabbing, preferring Everton, but clearly this was not entirely the case, all these journalists seem to base much on assumption.

It was down to personal terms i.e him being greedy, and possibly not that keen to come. Thats why some are being abusive.

He hasnt exactly covered himself in glory. If he really wanted to come he would have signed before. Its his prerogative but he suggestions he wasnt too keen are spot on. A loan is the best option for both parties.

Personally i don't rate him, but I will give him a chance to prove me wrong and support him when he is playing

Be interesting to see where PL plays him

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1217 on: September 02, 2014, 06:52:35 PM »
Option to buy? Very nice.

He replaces/challenges Westwood in my opinion.

His contract at United is out at the end of the year. And I hope he'll play further forward than Westwood, who is very much a Carrick-type, because it was this attempt to turn him into a Carrick which appears to have stifled him at United.

Thanks, I didn't know that. To be honest I can't remember how likes to play. I seem to recall he was as you say a bit like Richardson or even Bacuna, can kind of play anywhere.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1218 on: September 02, 2014, 06:55:44 PM »
Presumably, as this is a loan ,  he won,t be available to play in our Games vs Manure (?) ...........Godzvilla!

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1219 on: September 02, 2014, 07:00:05 PM »
I'm so glad we got him and after reading that interview I hope he is going to be allowed some freedom and able to get in the box. We really need a player like that and by the sounds of it and with a massively improved midfield our play will be more emphasised on playing through the midfield. Exciting signing.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1220 on: September 02, 2014, 07:00:43 PM »
Option to buy? Very nice.

He replaces/challenges Westwood in my opinion.

His contract at United is out at the end of the year. And I hope he'll play further forward than Westwood, who is very much a Carrick-type, because it was this attempt to turn him into a Carrick which appears to have stifled him at United.

Thanks, I didn't know that. To be honest I can't remember how likes to play. I seem to recall he was as you say a bit like Richardson or even Bacuna, can kind of play anywhere.

Yeah, let him be just as versatile as Bacuna except without the being utterly Shite at everything bit.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1221 on: September 02, 2014, 07:02:16 PM »
Thanks, I didn't know that. To be honest I can't remember how likes to play. I seem to recall he was as you say a bit like Richardson or even Bacuna, can kind of play anywhere.

He is a bit, but his best form came at Wigan when playing mostly as a final-third sort of midfielder. He's no Xavi for vision or passing range, but he can be quite busy and sharp, with quick movement into space. He'd be best in the role Weimann played, which I suppose brings him in for Richardson, with Weimann wide.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1222 on: September 02, 2014, 07:03:54 PM »
Option to buy? Very nice.

He replaces/challenges Westwood in my opinion.

His contract at United is out at the end of the year. And I hope he'll play further forward than Westwood, who is very much a Carrick-type, because it was this attempt to turn him into a Carrick which appears to have stifled him at United.

I see him playing on the right of a midfield three alongside Sanchez or Westwood and Delph.  To be honest , that's could be the best midfield we've had for a number of seasons.   

 

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1223 on: September 02, 2014, 07:04:15 PM »
Cheers Monty. Interesting!

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1224 on: September 02, 2014, 07:07:22 PM »
Riiight.

Can't say I wanted him and can't say the circumstances of him arriving fill me with confidence. I'd imagine his press conference will be interesting, sure the journalists won't take long to ask him if he wanted to join Everton.

Still he's here now so I back him. Good thing it's a loan so we're not lumbered with him on a 4 year deal like Ireland or Sidwell. To get a move here or elsewhere he'll have to play well.

As I said I didn't want him. I didn't want Senderos either or Hutton reintegrated back into the line up. Both have been superb so far. I was delighted when Ireland and N'zogbia joined, that turned out less well.

New signings are always difficult to predict. Hopefully Cleverley has enough motivation to prove a few people wrong which will be to our benefit.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1225 on: September 02, 2014, 07:09:58 PM »
The comments don't really tally with what happened yesterday but I wish him all the best. Let's hope it works out like Custard Pants at Everton.

And well done Villa on screwing a great deal, on our terms, out of it when it looked like it had gone in the toilet.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1226 on: September 02, 2014, 07:10:26 PM »
By the time he faces the journo's, he will have been spoon-fed his responses to the Everton question, and he will have had the time to learn it by rote.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1227 on: September 02, 2014, 07:11:45 PM »
Ferguson did with him what he did with Anderson, and seems to have ruined them both. When Cleverley was at Wigan, and Anderson in Portugal, they both played very much as final-third players, with freedom to find space and not worry too much about tactical responsibility. Ferguson decided that both of them should actually play in a deep midfield two - these days, one of the hardest jobs in football. Hopefully we can play TC23 (TM) further forward, as that's what both the team and the player need to kick on.

Agree wholeheartedly with this Monty. I remember Anderson moving to Porto and thought he'd be a star there but Ferguson squeezed all the creativity out of him and what was left was next to nothing. No wonder he's looked on as a failure.

Cleverley should have the freedom to hopefully get up and down the pitch with Delph, not that I any faith in Lambert's tactics but I'd imagine we'll have Sanchez sitting deep with Westwood pushing further up than normal but giving support to Sanchez. Somebody mentioned Cleverley replacing Richardson but my guess (hope) is it will be N'Zogbia. We'll be solid in both defence and midfield for once and given the strikers at the club, hopefully they can return to concentrating to doing what they do best.

I didn't think we needed another defensive midfielder but if you're right, we actually could be on to something.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1228 on: September 02, 2014, 07:13:06 PM »
Only just home and can't be arsed to trawl through the last 30-odd pages. My only comment is that between him and his agent they have delivered a master-class in how not to win friends and influence people. On that basis alone, he now better deliver four months of international-class football.

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Re: Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed
« Reply #1229 on: September 02, 2014, 07:14:08 PM »
So I'm in all day on transfer news day and fuck all happens until 2am after jizzing about Natalie sawyer
I have a quick look this morning and legion has locked everything
Fuck this I think I'm going work
I come home and read in 15 mins the days events and where we have signed Top cat on loan , well thank f@@k we didn't spunk 8 million on him as it looks an all win for villa.

I don't really rate him but he is an improvement on kea and cilla , who were both pretty poor to be fair but we can't lose having him on loan ,if he's shit baggies can have him in the championship next season.

Anyway can we have Canales on Friday please

Good luck top cat 23

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