Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[villan from luton]

I was surprised that Richardson didnt come on when Sanchez xame on, really negative decision and think it caused confusion to Pattern was better when Bent came on, though he dont look up to speed. We were awful first 15 mins of second half and really needed someone to take control of the ball.

[Matt C]

Still in touch with the Champions League places.

[Matt Collins]

Was at the cricket so didn't follow the game. Some thoughts and questions:

Would have definitely taken four points from these two games and great we're looking stronger at the back

As we all predicted we really lack attacking threat with our current injuries

A massive problem remains in lack of creativity and quality on the ball. Subbing n'zogbia and Richardson off while keeping cole and grealish on the bench would hardly have helped that. I think we need more quality on the ball against hull

How did the midfield look once sanchez came on? I presume he held. We're Westwood and Delph either side, or something different?

[ciggiesnbeer]

Sanchez looked a class above the rest of our midfield. One of his first touches was a lovely pass to pick out a run into the box. Most everything he did looked simple and assured. he was clearly rusty but his class shone through imho.

On the negative side I couldn't help but compare him to Delph & Westwood and thinking to myself "You pair are nowhere near his ability".

[BoldmereVilla]

Don't often post, but already this season Gabby is really frustrating me. !!! IMO he would be better moving to pastures new as he offers us nothing apart from a bit of speed. His problem is he doesn't know how to use it effectively and never has done. His goal ratio is shocking and Wiemman has to suffer out wide to accommodate him. Four goals last season !!!! God he has more kids than he got goals last season. But I get the impression under Lambert he is the first name on the team sheet. We look a lot more solid this season but I cannot see us scoring many until Benteke is back, lets give Bent and Wiemman a go down the middle as a two now we have the rock sitting in front of the back four. Newcastle I thought were poor on the plus side we probably would have lost this game last season. We have the nucleus of a good side but whilst Gabby struts around doing nothing we are not going to score many goals.

[dave.woodhall]

Don't often post, but already this season Gabby is really frustrating me. !!! IMO he would be better moving to pastures new as he offers us nothing apart from a bit of speed. His problem is he doesn't know how to use it effectively and never has done. His goal ratio is shocking and Wiemman has to suffer out wide to accommodate him. Four goals last season !!!! God he has more kids than he got goals last season. But I get the impression under Lambert he is the first name on the team sheet. We look a lot more solid this season but I cannot see us scoring many until Benteke is back, lets give Bent and Wiemman a go down the middle as a two now we have the rock sitting in front of the back four. Newcastle I thought were poor on the plus side we probably would have lost this game last season. We have the nucleus of a good side but whilst Gabby struts around doing nothing we are not going to score many goals.

I wish you'd post a bit more because that seems spot on.

[saunders_heroes]

Defence looks absolutely solid with 2 fullbacks that can actually defend. Just have to be more attack minded up front and add a bit of width to the team. There's no point in having a striker if there's no supply. That second half was frustrating.
Get your wallet out, Lerner.

[ROBBO]

Not sure even Benteke would have much joy without adequate support.

[ozzjim]

Gabby and Weimann are just not up to it. Apart from them, the rest of the side did really well and I hope Cissokho is not injured too badly.

[*shellac*]

A deserved point.  It could have gone either way.

Like the look of the back four.  But we need creativity in midfield.

2 games, 4 points, 1 goal and 2 clean sheets.  Not bad.

[richard moore]

Just in case you think they might show a bit of appreciation.

http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=54545.0

Makes it difficult to warm to them really doesn't it?

What they've never understood is that every set of supporters in the league would have behaved exactly the same as we did that day. Years of having to put up with that Geordie nation/everyone's second club bollocks and we laughed when it went wrong for them. They were up their own arses then and they still haven't learned.

Precisely Dave. Everyone was so fed up of all that local hero/fog on the Tyne/the number 9 shirt/best supporters in the land shit that was pedalled every week that any group of fans would have reacted to their relegation in the same way. They are second only to Chelsea in reinventing their history and generating self deluding myths and like Liverpool fans seem to think there is something special about living in Newcastle or Liverpool that means that when you meet one of them, you are in the presence of a very unique human being who has been dealt a hand of which you must be very envious. It's easy to forget just how much the media fawned over them for about 5 years in the 90s and just how much those awful geordie nation stereotypes were rammed down your throat....

[Stu]

Pretty sure there was a coachload of geordies down Witton Lane that day singing "You're just a town full of pakis"

Lovable scamps.

[The Man With A Stick]

Idiots.  Fans of every other club were overjoyed when they went down, they just happened to have the misfortune to be at our place when it happened.  If they'd been away at Fulham they'd have got the same reaction, only with 25,000 fewer fans taking the piss.

Maybe they really believe all this second-favourite-team stuff after all.

[mr underhill]

I couldn't  give a shiny shite about Newcastle or any other team (apart from a passing interest in Forest Green Rovers). The only team that matters is ours, and whilst the undoubted tightening up of the defence is welcomed, the inescapable fact is we didn't have a shot on target yesterday. Great that we have points on the board but midfield guile and artistry urgently needed now plus a back up striking option on loan if we are to avoid the agony of Lambert Part 1 & 2. 3 points a must next time out.

[olaftab]

Not sure even Benteke would have much joy without adequate support.

Oh believe me it would have been different. Gabby bless him is way past his use by date and was frankly embarrassing. His best role is on the bench making 10/20 minute impact entries from now on. Weimann may work in the centre but his attention span is poor to star wide and cause chaos in a defence by his movement.