Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

They also fail to realise that most fans take the piss regardless of who the opposition are. Look at the way Sunderland ripped into Manure a few years ago for example. It's what fans do, take the piss out of the opposition when it goes wrong for someone when playing them.

[villan from luton]

Just in case you think they might show a bit of appreciation.

http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=54545.0

Makes it difficult to warm to them really doesn't it?

What they've never understood is that every set of supporters in the league would have behaved exactly the same as we did that day. Years of having to put up with that Geordie nation/everyone's second club bollocks and we laughed when it went wrong for them. They were up their own arses then and they still haven't learned.

I agree with this. I recall Sunderland fans at Villa in 74/75 at end of season, they had thousands outside the ground. Also in 80/81 when they were outclassed by a Gordon Cowans inspired team and lost 4-0, the majority of them still supported their team till the end. This bollox of Newcaslte fans being the best around is just that, they aint the best in their own region

[Richard E]

Just in case you think they might show a bit of appreciation.

http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=54545.0

Makes it difficult to warm to them really doesn't it?

What they've never understood is that every set of supporters in the league would have behaved exactly the same as we did that day. Years of having to put up with that Geordie nation/everyone's second club bollocks and we laughed when it went wrong for them. They were up their own arses then and they still haven't learned.

Of course, if the boot had been on the other foot and we'd have been about to get relegated at St James Park all of their supporters would have been cheering for us and crying at the final whistle.

[Richard E]

Just in case you think they might show a bit of appreciation.

http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=54545.0

Makes it difficult to warm to them really doesn't it?

What they've never understood is that every set of supporters in the league would have behaved exactly the same as we did that day. Years of having to put up with that Geordie nation/everyone's second club bollocks and we laughed when it went wrong for them. They were up their own arses then and they still haven't learned.

I agree with this. I recall Sunderland fans at Villa in 74/75 at end of season, they had thousands outside the ground. Also in 80/81 when they were outclassed by a Gordon Cowans inspired team and lost 4-0, the majority of them still supported their team till the end. This bollox of Newcaslte fans being the best around is just that, they aint the best in their own region

I've never met anyone from Sunderland who wasn't really nice.

[peter w]

I have no problem with their enmity towards us and if it was reversed I'm sure I'd remember just as long as they do. they do take themselves ever so seriously though which makes any adverse football/stories about them all the more entertaining and funny. I've always quite liked newcastle but this modern-day since football began version is tedium in the extreme.

[robbo1874]

We desperately need the creativity Palacios will bring us.

have we signed palacios?

[Risso]

Well, I quite enjoyed that.  The defence was mostly sound, and Hutton and Cissokho were even for MOTM in my opinion.  The centre of midfield is weak for us, and when they're up to speed I'd give Cole and Sanchez a try together.  My daughter enjoyed her first trip to both Villa Park and The Bartons, and it was good to catch up with Joe, Anne Marie and a few of the usual reprobates.

Unbeaten after two games with no goals conceded is just what we needed after last season.

[silhillvilla]

To be honest if we'd been relegated at st James and they had un hurled pre made banners I know a load of our lot would be bitter against them.
Give it another decade and it's all forgotten.!

[villan from luton]

As for the game, thought the full backs were class, need Benteke on the end of the crosses from Cissokho. Centre backs were solid, though Senderos does shit me up every time he has the ball, reminds me of when I was young and trying to chat up a girl well out of my league, which was just about them all. Delph became a bigger influence when Sanchez came on, he looks a better passer than I had been led to believe as didnt see him in world cup tbh. Westwood was good imo, not sure if the more forward role will suit him though as not the most mobile. Richardson good effort, but average today. N'Zogbia had the better of left back but we didnt get him isolated against him. Gabby was shite IMO and Weimann was just as bad, hated his reaction for the booking and he should be ashamed of himself, petulant. That said, didnt think it was hand ball, but was more pist off when he was running through in first half and chose to shoot from 30 yards when two lads free on left

[Witton Warrior]

Only downside for me were Ashley's corners - dear me...

[PeterWithesShin]

Not beating the first defender with a corner is criminal. We also got caught out yet again with a quickly taken corner, we really need to be more aware as we got caught a lot with them last season.

[silhillvilla]

Not beating the first defender with a corner is criminal. We also got caught out yet again with a quickly taken corner, we really need to be more aware as we got caught a lot with them last season.

In other words you're asking Barry Bannan back ?

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't want them over hit either, so no.

[villan from luton]

Gabby had a free header from a corner from what I remember and did feck all. I didnt think we would have 4 points after two games and happy tbh.

[Caiphus]

As bad as Gabby and Andi were, I still believe we are always a chance of stealing a goal on the break. It's hard to be creative when you are shitscared of conceding, and if we keep defending like we have been we will be more confident of taking calculated risks in the future.

I was most worried when Senderos got turned and exposed for pace, so having Okore fit will be nice. Cissokho looks really good and Hutton is a breath of fresh air. They were most responsible for any attacking threat while still very solid at the back.  Gabby and Andi have become so used to having to defend from the front that they didn't gamble on attacking the fullbacks' crosses.

I'm pretty sure Cole or Grealish would have come on if we didn't have to use the third sub on replacing left back.

As to shots on target, we had some close misses and blocked attempts which to my mind are as good as on target shots that go straight at the keeper. Zog's header and fk could have gone in on another day.

The big disappointment was that we went back into our shells in the second half instead of building on the previous 30 mins before the break where we actually started to press and tried to move the ball around. And we didn't have any creativity on the field when they went down to 10 men for the last couple of minutes was frustrating.