FC Groningen vs Aston Villa

[robbo1874]

Fucking hell, they shipped a few goals in a pre-season friendly. Let's all go and slash our wrists shall we? At least wait until October?

[Villafirst]

Fucking hell, they shipped a few goals in a pre-season friendly. Let's all go and slash our wrists shall we? At least wait until October?

and a 3-1 defeat to mighty Chesterfield? The club is rotting under Lerner.

[robbo1874]

Like I said, let's see where we are in October? It's almost like some people want us to fuck up before a ball has even been kicked in the premiership.

[pbavfckuwait]

Robbo all you can look for, are signs of improvement, to see in what are just correctly, friendly's, but there should be some cohesion, we are all aware of what are problems were last season, so we would like to see some progress on addressing those and the time to see that is July early August, not October when we are two months into the season and god only knows where in the table.

[clash city rocker]

If things go tits up early in the season and the mood turns ugly , lerner now has his insurance policy...Keane. .lambert goes , Keane steps up and that buys lerner more time.

[Matt Collins]

Fucking hell, they shipped a few goals in a pre-season friendly. Let's all go and slash our wrists shall we? At least wait until October?

It's not this result which is causing the extremely negative mood. That exists anyway. It's just acted as a trigger to bring it all to the surface

It's only a friendly but it's also about the 6th time we've lost by three goals or more in about our last 12 games isn't it?

[mr woo]

Thats right. Its only a friendly and the result is irrelevant.

But on the basis of that set up, the tactics,  formation and performance if anyone thinks anything has changed from last season you can forget it.

We are as poor in attack  as we ever were under McLeish, but at least he had the plus point of being able to organise a defence.

I refuse to accept we have worse players than Chesterfield or Groningen, we changed the coaches - so that only leaves one common denominator. Lambert has to go. Otherwise things will never change. The worry is, Lerner will go for the cheap easy option and give the job to Keane.

[Mister E]

... We are as poor in attack  as we ever were under TSM ...

I think we're learning that Gabby and Bent are not exactly going to strike fear into Premiership defences. We need Benteke and Kozak back soon, but we also need decent supply lines ... not looking promising either.

[junxs]

The only person we had with a bit of creativity is now playing at Leicester, combine a defence that cant defend with a midfield that cant defend or create chances with a strikeforce that cant score and I can only see one outcome come end of the season.

[Matt Collins]

Gabby's form has tailed off awfully. But unless we bring in a striker he simply has to start up top v stoke. Bent just can't play that role as he's proved time and time and time again.

My big concern - I have several to be fair - is that there are so many unanswered questions at a relatively late stage.

How are we going to line up formation wise? Not because we have loads of options but because nothing looks convincing. I'd guessed it may be 352 but there's little sign of that

Who's going to play left back? I'd assumed Richardson but he's not played left back in a back four once yet. That leaves Clark, Bennett or Stevens. Absolutely shocking.

Who plays up front. As above, I think it has to be gabby but would much rather we brought in a proper number 9 on loan.

This has all the hallmarks of a real car crash from the off.

As it stands, and pessimistically assuming we get nobody else in, I would personally go 352 and a fairly negative shape to begin with. Batten down the hatches:

Guzan - Okore vlaar senderos - Hutton / bacuna KEA Westwood Delph Richardson - n'zogbia gabby

That's a very defensive team which will struggle for goals. But I think if you put a number 10'in there we'd be too weak in midfield

[Clampy]

Fucking hell, they shipped a few goals in a pre-season friendly. Let's all go and slash our wrists shall we? At least wait until October?

and a 3-1 defeat to mighty Chesterfield? The club is rotting under Lerner.

We won our first three friendlies though did we not?

Whilst the last two results haven't been very encouraging, let's at least wait until the season starts and the transfer window shuts before we start getting worried. That said, we do need some more players in but I think that's obvious to everybody.

[richard moore]

Like I said, let's see where we are in October? It's almost like some people want us to fuck up before a ball has even been kicked in the premiership.

I've seen a lot of people saying 'we will fuck up', including me but no one saying they want us to that I can recall. They are two very different things. Just because you say the former a lot, and let's face it, who can blame anyone, it doesn't then mean you actually want it to happen

[olaftab]

Randy Lerner is a fake. The tattoo, the talk of being a good custodian. The general krulak nonsense.
What a nonsense and piss take out of everyone.

Yes agree and we would have been better off with any off Risdale, Milan, Tan, Bates etc.

[Mister E]

Guzan - Okore vlaar senderos - Hutton / bacuna KEA Westwood Delph Richardson - n'zogbia gabby

That's a very defensive team which will struggle for goals. But I think if you put a number 10'in there we'd be too weak in midfield

pretty much what I'd do, Matt.

[aj2k77]

Epic overreaction as per usual.

If we beat Parma by the same score next week I'm sure it will be that they are a week behind us in terms of fitness.

UTV.

You are aware this has been going on pretty much week in week out for the past 3 years now? No one gives a shit we were hammered by a crap dutch team in pre season, but everything points to the fact we are going to be rubbish again most weeks with a clueless manager in charge and a chairman who wants rid of us.