Ian Taylor left out of tour...

[silhillvilla]

Is he out the door then ?

[old man villa fan]

Does it matter? He was being paid to be a club ambassador, and as such he should not have been on social media slagging the club off. It matters not that he may have been correct in his criticism

It does to some on here but I agree with you.

[Dave Cooper please]

Is he out the door then ?

According to his Tweets he is back at the club I think. So just a case of being put in the naughty corner for a bit/

[Dave]

"If you're going to cause trouble in class, then you're not allowed on the school trip and you have to stay back with angry Mr Keane and his extra Maths lessons"

[Louzie0]

He could try a pyramid of FR chocs for Mr Keane, but I don't think it would do him any good, somehow.

[Malandro]

Boy,does the club need some positivity! A decent signing might just do the trick.

This is where buying a foreign,young, striker works a trick on the foolish punters. Heck they don't even need to cost anything. Just fabricate a you tube video

[kippaxvilla2]

Does it matter? He was being paid to be a club ambassador, and as such he should not have been on social media slagging the club off. It matters not that he may have been correct in his criticism

It does to some on here but I agree with you.

So everytime you express criticism at work either because the coffee machine is crap, or wage freezes suck, or you are not getting development opportunities you can expect to be suspended?

[PeterWithesShin]

Does it matter? He was being paid to be a club ambassador, and as such he should not have been on social media slagging the club off. It matters not that he may have been correct in his criticism

It does to some on here but I agree with you.

So everytime you express criticism at work either because the coffee machine is crap, or wage freezes suck, or you are not getting development opportunities you can expect to be suspended?

If my job was to positively promote the company and I was saying negative things that could, and would, be read by thousands of their 'customers' then yes. Wouldn't you?

[Louzie0]

Does it matter? He was being paid to be a club ambassador, and as such he should not have been on social media slagging the club off. It matters not that he may have been correct in his criticism

It does to some on here but I agree with you.

So everytime you express criticism at work either because the coffee machine is crap, or wage freezes suck, or you are not getting development opportunities you can expect to be suspended?

If my job was to positively promote the company and I was saying negative things that could, and would, be read by thousands of their 'customers' then yes. Wouldn't you?

He's not turned up on a random interview and been appointed to a position open to all comers though, he's been appointed on the basis of his previous work for the club, his relationship with it, with supporters and his personal public profile.  It is not comparable with a regular post on those grounds. If anybody could do it, fair enough, but that's not the case.

He is as bothered about the problems at Villa at least as much as any one of the thousands of customers, with a specialised perspective on what the problems might be. I can understand his frustration and think the club should take the comments in the spirit they were meant, thank him, keep him if mutually acceptable and move on.

[john e]

It all sounds sort of fair enough, when people say he was 'slagging' the club of or critizing the club through social media, therefore he takes the penny he must tow the line

Untill you actually see what he had said, then it becomes rediculously petty,
from what I have seen and unless there is some heavy stuff out there that I haven't seen,
 you have got to be a barn pott to think he should have been canned for such comments, which doesnt amount to 'slagging' in any way,

Lambert comes out of this a weak threatened man unfortunatly, and I speak as one who has backed him for a long time, not someone who is using it as a stick to beat him

Little things sometimes tell you more about a man than the big gestures,
and Lamberts done himself no favours here, for the first time I think the pressure is getting to much for him, he handling things badly and the end will be nigh

[kippaxvilla2]

Does it matter? He was being paid to be a club ambassador, and as such he should not have been on social media slagging the club off. It matters not that he may have been correct in his criticism

It does to some on here but I agree with you.

So everytime you express criticism at work either because the coffee machine is crap, or wage freezes suck, or you are not getting development opportunities you can expect to be suspended?

If my job was to positively promote the company and I was saying negative things that could, and would, be read by thousands of their 'customers' then yes. Wouldn't you?

Surely everyone's job is to positively promote the company.

[Clampy]

I can see this from both sides really. He's club ambassador and no doubt paid well to promote the club in various ways and because of that role, he has to take off his 'fan hat' if you will. I totally get that and can see the clubs viewpoint. That said, bearing in mind we lost 20 league games last season (22 if you count the cup games), maybe he found it harder and harder to bite his tongue as the season went on and as wrong as he was to say what he thought, it was understandable if he slipped.

[Ron Manager]

Assuming Ian Taylor is financially stable and does not need the money the club pay him the answer is simple.

He should inform the club he does not wish to continue with this role. Then he can say whatever he likes on social media. In fact what he has been saying is more or less what you would read daily on any Villa related forum.

Lambert (as I have said before) is adopting a siege mentality. He has got nothing else in his locker...nothing.

[pauliewalnuts]

His comments on twitter were largely to the tune of "this isn't good enough" during games.

The problem is, he's paid by the club to do a job. It is surely entirely understandable for an employee to expect repercussions if he criticises him employer to tens of thousands of followers on twitter?

Re "if he doesn't need the money, he should resign so he can say what he likes", I take it that means he is due some criticism if he opts for the money and keeps quiet?

[Clampy]

His comments on twitter were largely to the tune of "this isn't good enough" during games.

The problem is, he's paid by the club to do a job. It is surely entirely understandable for an employee to expect repercussions if he criticises him employer to tens of thousands of followers on twitter?

Re "if he doesn't need the money, he should resign so he can say what he likes", I take it that means he is due some criticism if he opts for the money and keeps quiet?

If comments like 'this isn't good enough' is a far as he went, then maybe a quiet word in his ear would have been suffice as opposed to leaving him out of a club tour thus bringing more unwanted negativity on the club.