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Author Topic: Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)  (Read 249738 times)

Offline achilles

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #600 on: June 08, 2014, 10:10:13 AM »
I kind of admire the balls of Lambert in bringing in someone like Keane as number 2. Brave move in many ways.

Has he though or has he been coerced into the arrangment?

As a thought how is Keane going to get on with Paul Faulkner (who knows fa about football)... the conversation won't last long!

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #601 on: June 08, 2014, 12:30:17 PM »
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/382714/EXCLUSIVE-Aston-Villa-to-name-Keane-as-Lambert-s-No-2-and-then-step-up-bid-for-Hoolahan

I, for once, hope that The Daily Star is right.

Hoolahan yes, Keane no for me.  Then again this is the Star we are talking about so...

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #602 on: June 08, 2014, 12:57:46 PM »
Please tell me we never paid Delfoneouso 40k per week?  I am reeling.

I find it hard to believe.

However, the bloke who used to sit next to me had a few connections with players, through his daughter, who by the sounds of it was a bit of a wannabe wag, and knew plenty of them.

I remember him telling me that Ciaran Clark had just signed a new contract - this was the Houllier season - and he was on 40k a week.

The figure I heard was slightly less, but in thst ball park.

Offline supertom

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #603 on: June 08, 2014, 01:05:41 PM »
Please tell me we never paid Delfoneouso 40k per week?  I am reeling.

I find it hard to believe.

However, the bloke who used to sit next to me had a few connections with players, through his daughter, who by the sounds of it was a bit of a wannabe wag, and knew plenty of them.

I remember him telling me that Ciaran Clark had just signed a new contract - this was the Houllier season - and he was on 40k a week.

The figure I heard was slightly less, but in thst ball park.
I recall hearing that generation of youngens, Clark, Fonzie, Bannan, Alby were on somewhere in the 20k region. That's still pretty silly given how much they'd actually played at the point we gave them those deals.
As much as 40k a week? I would bloody hope not, but given how ridiculously run the club was financially 3-4 years back, it wouldn't surprise me.

I would say though that with Bannan, Alby and Fonz all leaving within a year, you're probably looking at, minimum, around 60k off the books every week. That's a lot for three players who aren't really Premiership quality.
Add in 60-80k a week lopped off from whatever we were paying Ireland and I would hope we've got reasonable room to manoeuvre this summer, whilst remaining acceptable with our wage/turnover.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #604 on: June 09, 2014, 09:11:05 AM »
I kind of admire the balls of Lambert in bringing in someone like Keane as number 2. Brave move in many ways.

Has he though or has he been coerced into the arrangment?

As a thought how is Keane going to get on with Paul Faulkner (who knows fa about football)... the conversation won't last long!

One area where I have a lot of respect for Lambert is that whilst Villa manager he has never taken the easy option, consistently making harder decsions with the long term objective in mind (ignore whether they were the right objectives in the first place).  On that basis it would not surprise me that it was him that selected Keane (it was quoted on here that they're friends after all).


Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #605 on: June 09, 2014, 09:17:31 AM »
Regardless of what Keane is like as a person (horrible) and coach (hard to say) I do see some benefits in the appointment.  As Ferguson used to do every few years, I think it is a good policy to change the coaches every few years in order to inject some different ideas and coaching drills etc. 

Furthermore the old Roy Keane would never suffer fools gladly (see storming off from the World Cup) so if there is incompetence within the club I wouldn't expect him to stomach it for too long which could provide us with something to talk about.  However I do think that the 'new' Keane may be less principled as he once swore he'd never be a TV pundit and he soon accepted that role once other income streams dried up.

Offline MYSTERYMAN

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #606 on: June 09, 2014, 09:17:52 AM »
They hardly know each other and it's only recently they became aquaintances ! Deal was thrashed out a few weeks back is my understanding and he is coming

Offline Quiet Lion

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #607 on: June 09, 2014, 10:31:02 AM »
If they dont know each other - then it is a stranger appointment than I first thought.

Offline fbriai

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #608 on: June 09, 2014, 10:34:20 AM »
If they dont know each other - then it is a stranger appointment than I first thought.

I think he is referring to Faulkner and Keane, rather than Lambert and Keane, QL.

Offline MYSTERYMAN

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #609 on: June 09, 2014, 10:48:18 AM »
No it's Keane and Lambert if you look at even things in the press . Lambert did quote saying he didn't know Keane but received a call from him as supporting what he was doing and it grew from there .

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #610 on: June 09, 2014, 10:51:42 AM »
Any idea how much this gamble is likely to cost us in wages? Keane don't come cheap, he was on silly money at Sunderland and Ipswich ( where the players ended up refusing to play for him).


Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #611 on: June 09, 2014, 10:54:40 AM »
No it's Keane and Lambert if you look at even things in the press . Lambert did quote saying he didn't know Keane but received a call from him as supporting what he was doing and it grew from there .

That sounds like there's going to be no immediate change to the way he's doing things - and no takeover about to go through, either.

Offline fbriai

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #612 on: June 09, 2014, 10:55:26 AM »
No it's Keane and Lambert if you look at even things in the press . Lambert did quote saying he didn't know Keane but received a call from him as supporting what he was doing and it grew from there .

Ah, OK. Sorry, my mistake.

Offline MYSTERYMAN

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #613 on: June 09, 2014, 11:15:26 AM »
No it's Keane and Lambert if you look at even things in the press . Lambert did quote saying he didn't know Keane but received a call from him as supporting what he was doing and it grew from there .

That sounds like there's going to be no immediate change to the way he's doing things - and no takeover about to go through, either.

There is definately nothing on the horizon regarding a quich sale . This could drag on for 12 months forget all the talk of Lerner wanting 200 million etc that isn't correct he wants rid and is prepared to take a bath on it but no takers yet . Some early interest from Chinese but want a 6 months exclusivity period so hardly moving fast . Same guys who shown interst in West Ham

Offline Monty

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Re: Roy Keane - new assistant manager?
« Reply #614 on: June 09, 2014, 11:24:51 AM »
This place might start to get pretty gloomy after the World Cup.

 


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